WIIC :: Volume #2

#176: Asking one's conscience


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In Earth, the natural sciences have divided family property with the philosophy. 在地球,自然科学早已和哲学分家。 The essence of philosophy, lies to „the world overall assurance. But the person can see clearly the big world, depends on the scientific level high, which the theory arrived. Russell had once said that any science, so long as about its knowledge once possibly determined, this science then no longer is called the philosophy, but changed to become an independent science. 哲学的本质,在于对“世界”的总体把握。但人能看清多大的世界,到底还是取决于科学的水平有多高,理论走到哪一步了。罗素就曾说过,任何一门科学,只要关于它的知识一旦可能确定,这门科学便不再称为哲学,而变成为一门独立的科学了。 Therefore, that the philosopher establishes laboriously can hold the philosophy systems of all known world, will always be hit with science the breakthrough of theory of lifting crushes. This point, the great philosophers are no exception. 因此,哲学家辛辛苦苦建立的一个能够容纳一切已知世界的哲学体系,总是会随着科学的提升理论的突破而被打得粉碎。这一点,再伟大的哲学家都不能例外。 However, is honored as scientific empress the math on the contrary is an exception. 但是,被誉为“科学皇后”的数学反倒是一个例外。 The math continuously and philosophy very nearly walks. Although the philosopher with the mathematical analysis world, the mathematician has not studied himself the junction to hold the philosophy domain. However, the math and philosophy operate in mental alone another world, the math and philosophy really look like in this aspect very much. 数学一直和哲学走得很近。虽然哲学家未曾用数学解析世界,数学家也从没有将自身所学交托到哲学领域。但是,数学与哲学都是孤零零地运行于心智之中的“另一个世界”的,数学和哲学在这方面真的很像。 Although Gauss looks down upon Hegel, thinks that Leibniz diverting attention math is to waste the talent, but he is actually the person who likes the math very much. 尽管高斯瞧不起黑格尔,更认为莱布尼茨分心数学是浪费天分,但他其实是一个很喜欢数学的人。 Proposed that barber paradox, mathematician Luo Su who causes the third mathematical crisis, official duty or philosopher. 提出“理发师悖论”,引发第三次数学危机的数学家罗素,本职还是哲学家。 But in history of a Goodall most talent mathematicians, likes elaborating oneself philosophy speculation in oneself mathematical paper. 而有史以来最天才的数学大师之一的哥德尔,更是喜欢在自己的数学论文中阐述自己的哲学思辨。 In summary...... 综上所述…… The mathematician who does not want to be the philosopher he is not one is good to install to compel the suspect! 不想当哲学家的数学家丫就不是一好装逼犯! Right, compels the standard in this richly the domain, king Qi is the previous generation possibly unconventional? 没错,在这个富有逼格的领域,王崎前世可能免俗吗? Does Feng Yiwei image, how know it? 冯翼惟象,何以识之? This type union language environment, said itself to understand reading topic big topic, when was I more than ten years old played remaining! If asks one's conscience to close is tests this...... I to have no good fear! 这种“结合语言环境,说出自己理解”的阅读题大题,是我十几岁时玩剩下的!如果问心关就是考这个的话……我已经没什么好害怕的了! Only calculates.” “唯算而已。” Chen Jingyun said: Please do to explain in detail.” 陈景云道:“请做详解。” In my opinion, outside the heart, non- divorces oneself from reality to result, non- thinks to become aware unreliably. Because of the say/way in the heart outside, thinks this by me, resembles Smoke and mirrors, the middle is away from named most profound camouflage. clear(ly) calculates that shaded broken profound, built me and say/way between world bridge. The arithmetic non- say/way, said that but is shading, asked road of.” “在我看来,道在心外,非闭门造车可得,非玄思可悟。因道在心在外,是以我看这道,似雾里看花,中间隔着一层名为‘玄之又玄’的遮蔽。明算即去蔽破玄,架起‘我’与‘道’之间的天地桥梁。算学非道,非常道,而是去蔽之器,求道之路。” „” Deng Jiaxuan applauds: Said well.” “啪啪”邓稼轩鼓掌:“说得不错。” king Qi that several words, shaded two characters a moment ago particularly, can touch to him unexpectedly! 刚才王崎那几句话,尤其是“去蔽”二字,竟能给他以触动! king Qi smiles proudly- the corresponding relationships that the Heavenly Dao elder brother carries out only include the natural sciences domain, Heidegger's philosophy these definitely listen not to listen! 王崎傲然一笑-天道哥搞的对应关系只包括自然科学领域,海德格尔的哲学这几位肯定听都没听过啊! The key is, king Qi also truly think. The ancestors he another wrapped oneself opinion to the math, now takes absolutely is not pure scary! 关键是,王崎自己也确实是这么想的。上辈子他对数学就又一套自己的见解,现在拿出来绝对不是单纯唬人! Thinks of here, king Qi looked at one. This Master Yang Shenge said to king Qi: Does not need to look at me. My trimming your state of mind, making you not want to lie, thus bottom of one's heart. These they are know.” 想到这儿,王崎又看了可哈儿一眼。这位阳神阁宗师对王崎说道:“不必看我。我微调了你的心境,让你不想说谎,从而句句肺腑。这些他们都是知道的。” At the beginning of remote antiquity, arithmetic what stand? Far away ten thousand years, how abundant it?” “遂古之初,算学何立?迢迢万年,何以盛之?” Ancient times initial period , the person clan still spot was ignorant, was who establishes the arithmetic? In these 80,000 years, how does the arithmetic develop? 远古初期,人族尚处蒙昧,是何人立下算学?在这八万年里,算学又是如何发展的? Arithmetic begins in the person clan to need, because the person clan is popular to be abundant.” “算学始于人族所需,又因人族兴而盛。” Please explain in detail.” “请详解。” king Qi spoke with confidence: „ Arithmetic is initial, but is counting. The person clan fishes and hunts obtained, must count, by having arithmetic operations. But the person inborn ten fingers, enter one by general arithmetic ten. Later described the thing, the person the clan abstracts the image from the world myriad things, had the how much. This is the beginning of arithmetic. 王崎侃侃而谈:“算学最初,不过是计数尔。人族渔猎所得,皆需计数,是以有加减乘除。而人天生十指,是以通行算学十则进一。后为描绘事物,人族又从天地万物抽象出图像,是有几何。此乃算学之始也。 But we said that calculates that is shades broken profound. The arithmetic is more detailed, then asked to be sharper, by free innumerable senior perfect arithmetic. By the arithmetic then person clan develops prosperously. ” 而我方才说了,算乃去蔽破玄之器。算学越明细,则‘求道之器’越锋锐,是以自由无数前辈完善算学。是以,算学又遂人族兴盛而发展。” But shows the astonished expression, turns to Chen Jingyun: Chen Zhangmen, this child said that the heart does not need to ask, was too perfect! I and my hanger-on disciple have been the person of many secondary earthquake heart, may never hear the disciple can such as he be common.” 可哈儿露出惊异的表情,转向陈景云:“陈掌门,这孩子道心不必问了吧,太完美了!我和我门下弟子做过很多次震心之人,可从未听说过又弟子能如他一般。” king Qi sits in underground, in the heart rubs to rise to this Yang Shenge free favorable impression upward. 王崎坐在地下,心中对这位阳神阁逍遥的好感蹭蹭蹭往上涨。 Leaders, you, if thinks this well equally happily! 掌门啊,你要是想这位一样痛快多好! Chen Jingyun nods gently: I have to haggle over.” Then also said: This was the most important issue, and you listened.” 陈景云轻轻点头:“我自有计较。”然后又说道:“这是最重要的问题了,你且听好。” king Qi saw him to say seriously, could not bear swallow a saliva. 王崎见他说得郑重,忍不住咽了口唾沫。 So-called arithmetic, complete? Accommodating? Can determine?” “所谓算学,完备乎?相容乎?可判定乎?” ? king Qi obviously gawked. 啊?王崎明显愣了一下。 This issues and front two difference were too many! 这个问题和前面两个差太多了吧! The math is complete? Is each proposition can prove or attest to falsity? 数学是完备的吗?是不是每个命题都能证明或证伪? The math is accommodating? With echoing the step and order of logic, will never withdraw from the contradictory proposition? 数学是相容的吗?是否用附和逻辑的步骤和顺序,永远不会退出相矛盾的命题? The math may determine? Whether can determine each proposition with a mechanical method the truth? 数学是可判定的吗?是否能用一种机械的方法判定每一个命题的真伪? The bases of these three issue each long jab maths, each is the logic domain most profound issue! 这三个问题每一个都直击数学的根本,每一个都是逻辑学领域最高深的问题! Does this issue emerge in the asking one's conscience pass/test of college entrance examination nature? This like letting the high-school student solves the gauge field equation, is the not possible matter! 这种问题出现在高考性质的问心关之中?这就像让高中生来解规范场方程一样,是不可能的事情啊! Waits, because the history of two world have had the difference, Goodall's isotopic form has not appeared in the motherland, therefore currently speaking the first two issues are the non-solutions...... the third issue is Alan Turing is solved in Earth, but...... I have not learned that side now, does not know machine Turing who divine land is solves determination problem- is not right , came from Goodall in the inspiration of Earth determination issue...... 等一等,由于两个世界的历史已经出现分歧,哥德尔的同位体并没有出现在神州大地,所以目前来看前两个问题都是无解的……第三个问题在地球是阿兰・图灵解决的,但是……现在我还没有学到那边去,也不知道神州的机老图灵是不是解决判定问题-不对,在地球判定性问题的灵感同样来自哥德尔…… In other words this is to believe the issue purely? 也就是说这个纯粹是信仰问题? king Qi the intention revolve like lightning, crossed some little time the organization good language: Third asked, I think is negative......, if calculates that can solve all mathematics problems, that also wants us to calculate that the family/home does do really?” 王崎心念电转,过了好一会才组织好语言:“第三问,我认为是否定的……若是算器便可解决所有算题,那还要我们算家作甚?” But, how do the first two issues arrange? The answer in my heart is the sign reaches certainly regarding a formal logic system, the completeness and compatibility cannot coexist......, but this special too concrete! If he gives me to come „to explain in detail me again probably unable to accomplish! 可是,前两个问题怎么编呢?我心底里的答案当然是标达“对于一个形式逻辑系统,完备性和相容性不可并存”……但是这特么太具体了好吗!要是他再给我来个“请详解”我可办不到啊! Chen Jingyun looks at king Qi awkward look, nods: These three issues are the most incisive mathematics problems, you do not need to go into seriously- that last issue. king Qi, you and does not permit the Daoist, is what relates? These three issues are not in the immortal institute professor range, but did he tell you?” 陈景云看着王崎为难的神色,点点头:“这三个问题都是最尖锐的算题,你也不必深究-那么,最后一个问题了。王崎,你和不准道人,是什么关系?这三个问题不在仙院教授范围之内,可是他告诉你的?” ? 诶? ? 诶诶? king Qi also in stunned, on the mouth has actually opened the mouth: Works as after a period of time neighbor......” 王崎还在错愕,嘴上却已经开口:“当过一段时间的邻居……” Damn, is this play meat? 见鬼,难道这才是戏肉? They really suspected that I with do not permit the Daoist to be concerned! 他们果然怀疑我和不准道人有关! What good Chen Jingyun asked was does not permit Daoist rather than Haisen treasure, otherwise I blurted out perhaps was Heisenberg is I most admiring scientist...... your younger sister, this really jumped in the Yellow River unable to wash clean! 还好陈景云问的是“不准道人”而不是“海森宝”,要不然我脱口而出的恐怕就是“海森堡是我最钦佩的科学家”……你妹,这样就真的跳进黄河都洗不清了! In addition? What has he taught you? A your promote entered the immortal institute to solve the topic of imparting cultivation palace rear palace, whether with didn't permit the Daoist to be related?” “除此之外呢?他教过你什么?你一晋入仙院就能够解出传功殿后殿的题目,是否与不准道人有关?” Besides teaching me has played chess, had nothing again.” king Qi considers the language: I can solve the topic, with does not permit the Daoist to have nothing to do.” “除了教过我下棋之外,再没有什么了。”王崎斟酌语言:“我能解出题目,与不准道人无关。” Luckily......, if this asking was why can solve topic...... initially is really crude...... 幸好……要是这位问的是“为什么能解出题目”……当初真是太鲁莽了…… This does not understand the words technique fortunately...... 还好这位不懂话术…… After listening to king Qi the reply, Chen Jingyun looked at one. But nods to him. Chen Jingyun then said: Good, we have been able to confirm that you and did not permit the Daoist to have nothing to do.” 听了王崎的回答之后,陈景云看了看可哈儿一眼。可哈儿冲他点点头。陈景云这才说道:“好的,我们已经能够确认你和不准道人无关了。” king Qichang one breath. mother...... the sea old man injures someone...... 王崎长舒一口气。尼玛……海老头害人啊…… But has not waited for him to indulge completely, really clarified that the child screamed in his mind: Be careful!” 可还未等他完全放纵下来,真阐子就在他脑海里尖叫:“小心!”
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