„When Ihear the bishoppreachedspeak the godto love the world, sharing everything, regarding as important the followerconforms to the instruction of scripture, rather thantheirstatus, no matterSorcererswere also good, the vampirewas also good, so long astheybelieved the godsincerely, from the heartbelieved the god, the behavior that displayedalsoconformed totheirbeliefs, theywerereverentnative of Italy, canbe redeemed.”Lucienhas not paid attention toRichard'sastonishment, butlooks like a scholarto speak with confidence, seeks the instruction.
“我听说主教布道时讲神爱世人,不分彼此,看重信徒是符合圣典的教诲,而不是他们的身份,不管是魔法师也好,吸血鬼也好,只要他们真诚地信仰神,发自内心地信仰神,表现出来的行为也符合他们的信仰,那他们就是虔诚的、可以得到救赎的义人。”路西恩没有理会理查德的惊愕,而是像一名学者般侃侃而谈,寻求指导。Lucienhas not deferred to the soullibrarycompletely„because of the letter/believescalledrighteousness” the content, because the cross on truthgod and Earthhasbeing an excellent likeness of certainplacesmerely, was not the samereligion, but„because of the letter/believessaidrighteousness” the annotationestablishedin the salvationmain roadbecomes the mortal body, savedabove the world, truthgodnotsuchmiracle, withoutsuchSaviorexisted, applies mechanicallyonlyto makeRichardsmile the toothcarelessly.路西恩并没有完全按照灵魂图书馆内“因信称义”的内容来讲,因为真理神教与地球上的十字架仅仅有着某些地方的神似,并不是同一个宗教,而“因信称义”的诠释是建立在救世主道成肉身,拯救世人之上的,真理神教并没有这样的神迹,也没有这样的救世主存在,胡乱套用只会让理查德笑掉牙齿。Therefore, Lucien„because of the letter/believessaidrighteousness” the contentdiverges, substitutedinquiteuniversalreligiousrule.
所以,路西恩将“因信称义”的内容发散开,代入了比较普遍的宗教规律之中来讲。Hears the Lucien'sissue, Richardreceivedgraduallysurprisedly, the preliminarysuspicionwas the lobby of seductionorSorcerers of devil, on the facespills over the kindsmiling face: „Thereforetoldus, the honestpersondid not fear that hewill riseinto the Saintto occupy, the benevolentpersondid not fear that hewill mountMountain Paradise, the person of justicedid not fear, hewill certainlyreceiveto care......”
听到路西恩的问题,理查德渐渐收住了惊讶,初步怀疑是魔鬼的诱惑或者魔法师的游说,脸上泛出和蔼的笑容:“所以告诉我们,诚实的人不怕了,他将升入圣居,仁慈的人不怕了,他将登上天堂山,公义的人也不怕了,他必将受到眷顾……”Thiswas a content of «Scripture»onscriptures, after Richardcarriesitcame out, said: „Perhapsif the Sorcerersvampirecanfrom the heartbelievemain, the behavior the lineconformed toownbeliefstrictly, heinevitablyisreverent, a redeemednative of Italy, teaching the Night Watchteam of courtto havemanysuchexamples, butotherSorcerers, the darklifeform, they will line of whichpointsconform to " Scripture » instruction?”
这是《圣典》上一段经文的内容,理查德将它背了出来后道:“如果魔法师或许吸血鬼能够发自内心的信仰主,所为所行都严格地符合了自身的信仰,那他必然是虔诚,是会被救赎的义人,教会裁判所的守夜人队伍就有很多这样的例子,而其他魔法师,黑暗生物,他们所行哪一点符合《圣典》的教诲？”„BishopRichard, whatyousaidwasancientSorcerers, theycruelcrazy, bloody, trulywas the person of non-righteousness, is unable to be redeemed, butmodernSorcerers, majorityis observing the law of kingdom, was not luxurious, did not indulge in sensual pleasure, was yearning the beautifulthing, whichtheydid havedo not conform to " Scripture » instruction?” The Luciensmilesaid.
“理查德主教,你说的是古代魔法师,他们残忍・疯狂,血腥,确实是不义之人,无法得到救赎・但现代魔法师们,大部分都遵守着王国的法律,不奢侈,不纵欲,向往着美好的事物,他们有哪一点不符合《圣典》的教诲？”路西恩微笑道。Richardunderstands that oppositethisyoung peoplerefer toare notthesefullhandbloodyfightmasters, butrefers towith single-hearted devotioninArcanist of experimenteven iftheyreceive the duty, stillbasicallywithexterminatingdevil, devilanddarklifeform, gainingresourcesexplorationrisk areaand other, thereforehas not refutedfrom the loophole of these words, butis the earnestsaid/tunnel: „Theyare doingevery dayare blaspheming the mainmatter, moreoverthey in teachinginbeing together of numerousfull mouthlie.”
理查德明白对面这位年轻人指得不是那些满手血腥的战斗法师,而是指专心于实验的奥术师・他们即使接受任务,也基本与剿灭魔鬼、恶魔、黑暗生物,获取资源・探索危险区域等有关,因此没有从这句话的漏洞去反驳,而是认真地道:“他们每天都在做着亵渎主的事情,而且他们在与教众的相处中满口谎言。”„Blasphemed the mainmatter? Refers tostudying the thing the mystery?”Lucienpoints at the sky saying that „«Scripture»oncanhave the scripturesto recordcannotexplore the world? The godsmayoncewarndomain that the world can not approach?”
“亵渎主的事情？是指研究事物的奥秘？”路西恩指着天空道,“《圣典》上可有经文记载不能探索世界？神可曾警告世人不得靠近的领域？”Richardrecalledcarefully,discovered " Scripture » onrelatedcontent, has not really advocatedunexpectedlytofalseletter/believes, disturbs the votary, evil, bloodinessrebuttal and warning, has not made concreteto the explorationto the worldcanblaspheme the Spiritual Goddignity.
理查德仔细回想,发现《圣典》上竟然真的没有相关的内容,只有主对伪信者、干扰信仰者、邪恶者、血腥者的驳斥和警告,没具体到对世界的探索会亵渎神灵的威严。
The Luciengood and evil was also the disciple of Ellgodsome time, looks atseveralFrancisto copy verbatim " Scripture » doctrineinsoullibraryalsohas the booksto refer, is very naturally clear the content of «Scripture»thisrelativelycrudecorebooksnotthisaspect, after all when «Scripture»book in circulationCongress of Magiccould not find the shadow, Douglasshould the level of middle rank, not raise the idea of explorationworld.路西恩好歹也做了埃尔神的门徒一段时间,看过好几遍弗朗西斯照抄《圣典》的教义・灵魂图书馆内也有书籍可以参考,自然很清楚《圣典》这本相对简陋的核心书籍没有这方面的内容,毕竟《圣典》成书时・魔法议会连影子都还找不到,道格拉斯应该也才中阶的水准,还未提出探索世界的理念。Therefore«Scripture»onlyhas the explicitoppositionto the evilhuman experiment, thinks that humanshould notexplore the life the forbidden area, butmanyArcanistdo not excel at the dead soulsdomain.
因此・《圣典》中只对邪恶的人体实验有着明确反对,认为人类不应该探索生命的禁区,而很多奥术师根本就不擅长死灵领域。Suppressed for severalminutes, Richardsaid: „Said, can not approachme, can not face directlyme...... thisto refer to the mortalnot being probableto approach the Spiritual God the domain.”
憋了几分钟,理查德道:“说,不得靠近我,不得直面我……这就是指凡人不得靠近神灵的领域。”Lucienunderestimatedclergy'sexplanationtowords, theycanexplaindifferentmeaningsfroma few wordsmomentarilyfor a whilea littledoes not knowhowshouldguide the topic, goes forwardinownpreinstalldirection.路西恩低估了神职人员对话语的解读,他们随时可以从一句话解读出不同的意思・一时有点不知道该怎么引导话题,往自己预设方向前进。Was goodleaves behind the yearstraceold manto continueto sayonRichardthisface: „Moreover«TeachesStandard»inclearlystipulated that anymortal can not attemptto step into the Spiritual God the forbidden area.”
好在理查德这位脸上留下了岁月痕迹的老者又继续说道:“而且《教典》里明确规定・任何凡人不得妄图踏入神灵的禁区。”„«TeachesStandard»? Itis not the words that the godspoke, butsuccessively holds the Popesandsomeclergyconstantlyrevises the formation, does ithave the authority?”Lucienhearswordrelaxed a pointslightly, thisis the talkdirection of preinstall.
“《教典》？它可不是神所说的话,而是历任教皇和部分神职人员不断修改形成的,它有权威性？”路西恩闻言稍微放松了一点,这是自己预设的谈话方向。Richardknits the brows: „Popeis the onlygroundspokesman who mainassigns, the words that hespokeare representing the maindignity.”
理查德皱了皱眉:“教皇是主所指定的唯一地上代言人,他所说的话就代表着主的威严。”„The northernchurchdoes not think.”Lucienlifted the doctrine of northernchurch, in the heartthankedtruthgodbigfission and internaldifferentfactionsprovides„shell”, otherwise a fellow of oneselfcrude person, wantedRichardthisrealtheologianto debate that wasbrings about own destruction . Moreover the Lucienoriginal intentiondid not debate the doctrine, butwas„help”Richardclears offhisidea, wasIllusion Magicisin the content of psychologicalguidance!
“北方教会并不这么认为。”路西恩抬出了北方教会的教义,心中感谢真理神教这次大分裂以及内部不同的派别提供“炮弹”,否则自己一个半吊子的家伙,要理查德这种真正的神学家辩论,那是自寻死路,而且路西恩本意也不是辩论教义,而是“帮助”理查德理清他自己的想法,是幻术系里面心理引导的内容！Rebuttaltonorthernchurchissouthteaches for several hundredyears the researchkey point, Richardnaturallyrefers to the classicswithout a single exception, refutedvoluminous, hearing the Lucienheadto swell, is waiting forhimwith single-hearted devotion„those words”appearance.! „Alllambswill certainlythrough the baptism, pray and the ceremonychurch, pass! Crossesshepherd'sguidance, to elucidateandhelp, canbe redeemed, but the head of tending sheepismywill”Richardproficiently the status words saying thisPopesegmentQueli.
对北方教会的驳斥是南方教会几百年来的研究重点,理查德自然毫无例外地引经据典,洋洋洒洒地反驳,听得路西恩脑袋发胀,专心等待着他“那句话”的出现。!“・・・・・・所有羔羊必将通过教会的洗礼、祈祷和仪式,通!过牧羊人的引导、开解和帮助,才能得到救赎,而牧羊之首是我的意志・・・・・・”理查德熟练地将这段确立教皇身份的话说了出来。Lucieneyesonebright, immediatelyinterruptsRichardwords: „Therefore, weare unable to call the righteousnessbecause of the letter/believes, even ifin the heartbelievesagaindevotionally, all one's actionsconform to " Scripture » instructionagain, canthrough the church, through the clergy, be ableto be redeemedthrough the Pope?”路西恩双眼一亮,立刻打断了理查德话:“所以,我们无法因信称义,哪怕心中信仰再虔诚,所行所为再符合《圣典》的教诲,都必须通过教会,通过神职人员,通过教皇才能得到救赎？”ThiswasRichardcontradictorymanyyears of issue, was openednakedly, for a whiledoes not knowhowshouldreply.
这是理查德自己矛盾了好多年的问题,被这么赤裸裸地揭开,一时不知道该怎么回答了。„Godloves the world, butloves the shepherd? The godslove the world, butisn't willing the minddirect communicationwith everyone? When pray, at home, in the church, the Spiritual God that induceshas the differencedignifiedly? Obtainsdivine spellto grant, canunderclergy'sguidance?”Lucienseizes the opportunity, eruptsa chain ofissues.
“神爱世人,但更爱牧羊人？神爱世人,但不愿意与每个人的心灵直接沟通？祈祷之时,在家里,在教堂,感应到的神灵威严有不一样？得到神术赐予,必须在神职人员的引导下才可以吗？”路西恩抓住机会,爆发出一连串的问题。Richardwantsto refute, butthinks the pastorandbishop who many talentsdifferentreportedwhenyoung the followingparentsprayed, reads«Scripture», accidentallyobtaineddivine spell, simplynotthroughmonasteriesandclergy'sguidance.
理查德想要反驳,但想到有不少天赋异禀的牧师、主教是在年少时跟着父母祈祷时,阅读《圣典》时,偶然就获得神术的,根本没通过修道院和神职人员的引导。Lucienstrikes„the fightstyle of”walkingnow, seeingRichardmentalityis more chaotic, the soundincreasesasks:路西恩现在是一击即走的“战斗风格”,见理查德思路更加混乱,声音变大地问道:„Popeis the maingroundspokesman, why did thatexplainwrong«Scripture»repeatedly? Again and againrevises«TeachesStandard»?”
“教皇是主的地上代言人,那为什么屡次解释错《圣典》？三番四次地修改《教典》？”„Since the goddoes not allow the mortalto explore the world, whythatmustact according to the achievementrevisiontheology of Arcanistexplorationworld, revisesdivine spell?”
“既然神不允许凡人探索世界,那为什么要根据奥术师探索世界的成果修改神学,修改神术？”ThisiscausesRichardthese20-30years of thoughtsto be chaotic, startsto advocatebecause of the letter/believesto call the source of righteousness, althoughhisunstated criticismis revising«TeachesStandard»must haveyourSorcerers„merit”, butopened the mouth, actuallydoes not know how shouldrefute.
这就是造成理查德这20-30年思维混乱,开始倡导因信称义的源泉,虽然他腹诽着修改《教典》少不了你们魔法师的“功劳”,但张开了嘴巴,却不知道该怎么反驳。„Therefore, I believe that actuallyPopeandchurchforindividuallust for powerwillfullyinhindrance between followerandgod, no mattercan obtaindivine spell, in the mainfront, shouldbe the similarequalities, becausesimilarlyall one's actionswill not conform to«Scripture»teachto fall into the hell.”
“所以,我认为,其实教皇和教会都是为了个人的权欲横加在信徒和神之间的阻碍,不管能否获得神术,在主的面前,应该都是同样平等的,同样会因为所行所为不符合《圣典》教诲而堕入地狱。”
„ Theserequesttediousceremonies, requestto consecrate the church, the requestfollowermustattemptsfalseletter/believes who hinders the godto love the worldthrough the people of clergy.
“那些要求繁琐仪式,要求供奉教会,要求信徒必须通过神职人员的人都是试图阻碍神爱世人的伪信者。„Thesefrequentteaches the standardaccording toownintentionrevision, annotates " Scripture » personat willinevitablyis the devil of ambush.”
“那些频繁根据自己的意图修改教典,随意诠释《圣典》之人必然是潜伏的魔鬼。”BeforeRichardresponded, Luciendrankone after anothergreatly:
在理查德反应过来前,路西恩是接连大喝:„Thesesaid ‚ beliefto the follower, the belief, oneselfblasphemed the clergy of beliefto go away!”
“那些向信徒说‘信仰,信仰,,自身却亵渎了信仰的神职人员滚开去吧！”„Theseto the followersaid that ‚ godloves the world, the godloves the world, actuallyattemptsto monopolize the clergy of mindto lead toSpiritual Godpath, parts forever!”
“那些向信徒说‘神爱世人,神爱世人,,却妄图垄断心灵通向神灵道路的神职人员,永别吧！”„Betweenfollowerandlord, should nothave the hindrance of anythinking, only thenall one's actions of beliefandmatchbelief!”
“信徒与主之间,不应该有任何认为的阻碍,只有信仰和匹配信仰的所行所为！”Richardlooks atLucien, hewantsto say the thing that actuallydoes not dareto saysaidcompletely, moreoveris more detailed, is clearer, is more radical.
理查德直直地看着路西恩,他将自己想说却不敢说的东西全部说了出来,而且更加详细,更加清晰,更加激进。
After Lucien said that stares atRichardnot to speak.路西恩说完之后,盯着理查德没有说话。Passedfor quite a while, Richardsmiles bitterly saying: „The right of clergytrulyshouldobtain the standard, the lordgrantsthemdivine spellnot to makethemstandin the head of follower, butmakesthemprotect the follower, guards the belief.”
过了半天,理查德才苦笑道:“神职人员的权利确实该得到规范,主赐予他们神术不是让他们站在信徒的头上,而是让他们保护信徒,守卫信仰。”Heardthese words, Luciensmiledimmediately.
听到这句话,路西恩顿时笑了起来。
The dense fogdissipates, Richardopens the eyes, discoveredoneselfstillprayedbefore the cross, in the heartsighedsecretly: „Worthilyis the degenerationmorning star......”
迷雾消散,理查德睁开双眼,发现自己还在十字架前祈祷,心中暗自叹息了一句:“不愧是堕落晨星……”Butoutside the church, Alferrisis staringtwotranslucentamber browneyes: „Lucien, did youconvincehim? Iremember that the beforehandmanypeoplewere defeated?”
而在教堂外,阿弗瑞斯瞪着两只半透明的琥珀色眼睛:“路西恩,你就说服他了？我记得以前很多人都失败了？”„Was notIconvincedhim, washeconvincedhe himself, ifhenotsimilarseed, even ifundermylanguagetrap, hefell into the inconsistencycondition, should still soon find the reasonannotation, hewas a theologian, Iwas not.” The Lucienself-satisfiedmood, „youhave not thought that light/onlydepends onmysuperficialtheologyknowledge to debatewins a theologian? Iinstill into an ideatohim, ifcanarousehisresonance, thatconvincedhim, ifcannot, Inot haveothermeans.”
“不是我说服了他,是他说服了他自己,如果他自己内心没有类似的萌芽,即使在我语言陷阱之下,他陷入了前后矛盾的状况,也会很快找到理由诠释,他是神学家,我可不是。”路西恩没有一点得意的情绪,“你以为光靠我肤浅的神学知识就能辩论赢一位神学者？我只是将一个理念灌输给他,如果能引起他的共鸣,那就说服他,如果不能,我也没其他办法。”Alferrishasto listennot to understand the said/tunnel: „In briefyouare very fierce!”阿弗瑞斯有听没有懂地道:“总之你很厉害！”„Thatactually not, is mainly the understanding of psychologicalguidanceunion the theologydevelopment, trading the sentencesaidis, in the person of lobby, I am in the person who excels at the Illusion Magicdomainpsychologyguidancemostunderstands the theology, isin the person of understandingtheologymostexcels at the psychologicalguidance, bothare indispensable.”Lucienhehesaid with a smile . Moreover the most important thing is, the soullibrarywas the backing.
“那倒不是,主要是心理引导结合对神学发展的了解,换句说就是,在游说的人里面,我是擅长幻术领域心理引导的人之中最了解神学的,也是了解神学的人里面最擅长心理引导的,两者缺一不可。”路西恩呵呵笑道,而且最重要的是,还有灵魂图书馆作为后盾。Richard'sconditionafter the observationconfirmedsome timecanrecommendtoNatasha, Lucienfinallyrelaxed a point, just about tocallsAlferristo leave, suddenlyfeels the lightdangerousaura.
理查德的状况在观察一段时间确认后就能推荐给娜塔莎了,路西恩总算轻松了一点,刚要招呼阿弗瑞斯离开,忽然感觉到淡淡的危险气息。Somepowerhousestoward„redemptionchurch”?
有强者往“救赎教堂”而来？
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