DBM :: Volume #9

#881: Science and theology( third, asked monthly ticket)


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Physics, lifeform and chemistry, the math, these should be very scientific division/discipline, these divisions/disciplines should help you establish a very complete world outlook, going in theology why you can also study?” Chen looks at Madame Peter curiously. Novel. “物理、生物、化学,还有数学,这些应该都属于非常科学的学科吧,这些学科应该已经帮你建立起来了一个很完整的世界观,为什么你还能学的进去神学?”好奇的看着彼得夫人。小说. Had a few words saying that the scientific end was the theology, the end of theology is the philosophy. 有一句话是这么说的,科学的尽头是神学,神学的尽头是哲学。 In fact is not this, the science is very rational thing. 实际上不是这样,科学是非常理性的东西。 The science is the materialism, the theology is the idealism. 科学是唯物主义,神学则是唯心主义。 The science is I believes that this existence, I must show that this exists. 科学是我相信这个存在,我要去证明这个存在的。 The theology is I thinks that this existence, he exists certainly. 神学是我认为这个存在,他就一定是存在的。 This is two completely different thinking modes. 这是两种完全不同的思维方式。 Therefore Chen is very difficult to imagine, a scientist will study the theology. 所以很难去想象,一个科学家会去研究神学。 Then you?” Madame Peter looks at Chen: „Do you believe existence of god?” “那么你呢?”彼得夫人看着:“你相信神的存在吗?” Chen thinks, god? 想了想,神吗? He has seen demon, has seen the angel, has seen Heterogenous Gods. 他见过恶魔,见过天使,也见过异类神明 However Chen regarding god whether exists , is still sceptical. 不过对于神是否真实存在的,依然存有怀疑。 Everyone has own understanding of the god. 每个人都对神有着自己的理解。 In description of religion, the god is omnipotent, omnipresent. 在宗教的形容中,神是无所不能的,无所不在的。 But viewpoint actually extraordinary similar of atheist and theist. 而无神论者和有神论者的观点其实出奇的相似。 Because the atheist and theist, they thought that the god exists in the heart of everyone. 因为无神论者和有神论者,他们都觉得神存在于每个人的内心之中。 I am the person who the swing sends.” Chen replied: I only believe thing that I see.” “我属于摇摆派的人吧。”回答道:“我只相信我看到的东西。” Then you are the rational faction.” Madame Peter the chuckle was saying. “那么你就属于理性派。”彼得夫人轻笑着说道。 Chen looks at Madame Peter, she is young time, should be big beauty. 看着彼得夫人,她年轻的时候,应该是个大美女 Even if the appearance dies of old age, the body still has elegant makings. 即便是容颜老去,身上依然带着一种雍容华贵的气质。 In fact Madame Peter now is not old. 事实上彼得夫人现在也不算非常老。 I in the past was also the rational faction, very pure rational faction, even was the atheist.” Madame Peter said. “我过去也是理性派,很纯粹的理性派,甚至算是无神论者。”彼得夫人说道。 What was changed you?” “那么是什么改变了你?” Hehe...... considers as finished, chatted with you are very happy, we changed a topic.” Chen gawked. “呵呵……算了,与你聊天很愉快,我们还是换个话题吧。”愣了一下。 Is is not very happy, how to return the topic that chatted suddenly? 不是聊的很开心吗,怎么突然就还话题了? Right, you previously said, you have not studied the medicine, cannot study the medicine, why is this? Is the family tradition?” “对了,你先前说,你没学过医学,不能学医学,这又是为什么?是家族传统吗?” Actually this issue retraces front that topic.” “其实这个问题又绕回到前面的那个话题。” Madame Peter looks to Chen: You are also one like inquiring into the secret person.” 彼得夫人看向:“你也是一个喜欢探究秘密的人。” Person have the curiosity, not?” “人都是有好奇心的,不是吗?” Then I receive, you were regarded as the supernatural story to be good, do not question me, I did not accept the question.” “那么我接下来说的,你就当作是个灵异故事好了,不要来质疑我,我不接受质疑。” You said like this, explained you passed are questioned many times.” “你这样说,说明你过去已经被质疑过很多次了。” I said to share, for was not questioned.” Madame Peter said: That is a three years ago evening, that is somewhat cool in the evening, I sit on the wheelchair look at «Feynman Lectures on Physics», then a person appears in my front, he wears the broadside felt hat, the body is wearing a scarf of red pattern, I do not see clearly his appearance, he asked me, whether is willing to stand.” “我说出来是为了分享,不是为了被质疑。”彼得夫人说道:“那是三年前的一个晚上,那个晚上有些凉,我坐在轮椅上看着《费曼物理学讲义》,然后一个人出现在我的面前,他戴着宽边毡帽,身上披着一条红色花纹的围巾,我看不清楚他的容貌,他问我,是否愿意站起来。” Raising the head of Chen surprise, looks to the both legs of Madame Peter: Madame Peter, your leg......” 诧异的抬起头,看向彼得夫人的双腿:“彼得夫人,你的腿……” I sat for 50 years on the wheelchair.” Madame Peter said: I am the inborn thigh growth am abnormal.” “我在轮椅上坐了五十年的时间。”彼得夫人说道:“我是天生的大腿发育畸形。” No wonder, how the normal person possibly spends so many time in the learn/study. 难怪,正常人怎么可能花那么多的时间在学习上。 Perhaps only then this, passed the lifetime person on the wheelchair, will use the time in the learn/study. 恐怕只有她这样,在轮椅上度过一生的人,才会把时间都用在学习上。 I told him, I wanted, no matter paid what price, I am willing to stand, my wish stood.” “我告诉他,我愿意,不管付出什么代价,我都愿意站起来,我想要站起来。” He said, I can stand, but I must accept his request, I cannot learn/study the medicine, if I study the medicine, then I will lose the both legs incessantly, will also lose.” “他说,我可以站起来,可是我必须答应他一个要求,我不能学习医学,如果我学医的话,那么我不止是会失去双腿,还会失去更多。” demon contract? What is this contract? 恶魔契约吗?可是这个契约又算什么? Doesn't this request, absolutely have peaceful? 这种要求,根本就没有安度吧? Therefore, you did stand?” “所以,你站起来了?” Yes, I sleep, then my both legs become same as the normal person.” Madame Peter looks at Chen: That person looks like the envoy of God, was starting from that time, I believed existence of god.” “是的,我睡了一觉,然后我的双腿就变得和正常人一样。”彼得夫人看着:“那个人就像是上帝的使者,也是那时候开始,我相信了神的存在。” Envoy of God? Chen looks at Madame Peter. 上帝的使者?看着彼得夫人。 Then you whether has what bad feeling?” “那么你是否有什么不良的感觉?” No, I feel very good.” “没有,我觉得很好。” Chen wants saying that making Madame Peter show the both legs him. 本来想说,让彼得夫人给他看看双腿的。 However thinks, felt this request excessive a point. 不过想一想,又觉得这个要求过分了一点。 Moreover, Chen is also unascertainable, this story whether or not real. 而且,也不能确定,这个故事到底是不是真的。 Even if as a supernatural person, this story sounds is still very inconceivable. 即便是作为一个灵异界人士来看,这个故事听起来也很不可思议。 And many unreasonable place. 其中还有许多不合理的地方。 Also does not know that is Madame Peter compiles, does not have the rational clear story. 也不知道是彼得夫人编造的时候,没有理清楚故事。 Or is really the envoy of God. 或者说真的是上帝的使者。 To Chen, this is an arranging not that perfect supernatural story or the fairytale. 来说,这就是一个编的不那么完美的灵异故事或者神话故事。 Then you learn/study the theology, to study this? To look for a reasonable explanation, unties oneself spell of good or bad fortune?” “那么你学习神学,也是为了研究这个吗?想找一个合理的解释,解开自己身上的际遇?” It can be said that.” “可以这么说。” Then you have thought that if this is a transaction of demon?” “那么你想过吗,如果这是一个恶魔的交易呢?” Child, I know that you are thinking anything, I study the theology, naturally has also contacted the demon religion, no matter in which religion, demon is representing the transaction, pays and obtains, some scholars had said that actually demon the initial image of birth is the merchant, the merchant through the transaction, seeking exorbitant profits, people are seemingly fair in the transaction, in fact the benefit had been harmed.” Madame Peter said: But I have not paid anything, therefore I do not believe that this is related with demon.” “孩子,我知道你在想什么,我研究神学,当然也接触过恶魔宗教,不管是哪个宗教中,恶魔都代表着交易,付出与获得,曾经有学者说过,其实恶魔的诞生的最初形象是商人,商人是通过交易,牟取暴利,人们在交易中看似公平,实际上利益已经受到了损害。”彼得夫人说道:“可是我并没有付出什么,所以我不相信这与恶魔有关。” Forbids to study the medicine, is not considered as that pays?” “禁止学医,难道不算是付出吗?” I think that this is a warning, but should not be the transaction, perhaps will be the god saw my future, therefore made some warning to me.” “我认为这是一种警告,而不应该是交易,也许是神看到了我的未来,所以向我做出某种警告。” Heard Madame Peter to speak these words, Chen loses the interest that continued to discuss. 听到彼得夫人说这句话,就失去了继续讨论下去的兴趣。 Because you cannot go to question his belief with a follower. 因为你不能去和一个信徒去质疑他的信仰。 She chooses to believe the god , because the god composed her world outlook. 她选择相信神,是因为神组成了她的世界观。 Argued and questioned with her, is not challenges her god, but is challenges her world outlook. 和她争论和质疑,那么不是去挑战她的神,而是去挑战她的世界观。 She believes that oneself cognition is the truth. 她相信自己的认知就是真理。 She and said that to not share, but wants to earn some support. 她与自己说,不是为了分享,而是想要获得某种支持。 Chen cannot deny her, no matter oneself said anything, she does not believe. 不能去否定她,不管自己说什么,她都不会相信。 Let alone, Chen are indefinite, whether or not that Madame Peter said real. 更何况,自己都不确定,彼得夫人说的是不是真的。 Madame Peter, the time, I should not leave early.” “彼得夫人,时间不早了,我该离开了。” Chen sets out to make the farewell with Madame Peter. 起身与彼得夫人做告别。 Good, my child, wishing God to bless you.” “好吧,我的孩子,愿上帝保佑你。” Although their cognition, are the idea is or different, but Peter wife is a very affable person. 虽说他们的认知,或者说是理念不同,可是彼得夫人还是一个非常和蔼可亲的人。 If there is a time, can come to accompany me...... to be natural, I will pay your doctor's fee.” “如果有时间的话,可以过来陪陪我……当然了,我会支付你诊金的。” „If happen to idle, so long as you do not keep them out me, is glad to visit very much.” “如果正好空闲下来,只要您不将我拒之门外,都很乐意到访。”
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