Chapter 422 【Origin?】 第422章【来源？】 This is the cat looks up to the starry sky, the appearance that bursts into tears sadly, making Chen Nuo be really shocked. 这是猫仰望星空,悲伤流泪的样子,让陈诺真的被震撼到了。 He can understand in the eye of grey cat that to wipe the worried and helplessness of thick being able to melt. 他能读懂灰猫的眼睛里那一抹浓的化不开的忧愁和无奈。 In Chen Nuo to the cognition of this cat, always felt this cat timid as a rabbit...... 原本么,在陈诺对这只猫的认知里,总觉得这只猫胆小如鼠…… Un? A cat timid as a rabbit, where always feels not right...... 嗯？一只猫胆小如鼠,总觉得哪里不对…… Good, always thinks that before it withdraws from the competition, according to its view is „forfeit” , because it is timid. 好吧,之前总以为它退出竞争,按照它自己的说法是“弃权”,是因为它胆怯懦弱。 But tonight says with that words of grey cat, Chen Nuo understands suddenly...... 而今晚随着灰猫的那番话讲完,陈诺才忽然明白…… Timid spiritless first did not say that it is really false, but possibly in addition, some „desperate” and „cannot see depressed of hope”. 胆怯懦弱先不说它是真是假,但可能除此之外,还有一些“绝望”和“看不到希望的沮丧”。 „......, therefore, you thought won't succeed?” Chen Nuo lowered the sound. “……所以,你是觉得不会成功？”陈诺放低了声音。 „I do not know.” The grey cat shakes the head: „I want to succeed, but......” “我不知道。”灰猫摇头:“我希望能成功,但是……” This „, but after”, the grey cat has closed the mouth not to say. 这个“但是”之后,灰猫已经闭上嘴巴不说了。 „Good, we trade to ask the law...... how, if succeeded can? I meant, if......” “好吧,那我们换个问法……如果成功了会怎么样？我是说如果……” Grey cat still very confident reply: „Does not know.” 灰猫依然很坦然的回答:“不知道。” Then it added: „We do not know that the four-dimensional life is what appearance, how to exist. Therefore, how do I know? If after the success,...... that matter, does not have the means to imagine.” 然后它补充道:“我们也不知道四维生命是什么样子,是如何存在。所以,我怎么知道？如果成功之后……那种事情,是没办法想象出来的。” Also the right, lower-dimensional life is unable to understand and imagine has the higher-dimensional life the occurrence form. 也对,低维生命是无法理解和想象出高维生命的存在形态的。 „That said that you have known that or guess.” Chen Nuo shakes the head saying: „ You were busy at work were so long, the long years, the infinite dispute, not possible to progress until the present what does not have? “那就说一些,你们已经知道的,或者猜测的。”陈诺摇头道:“你们忙活了这么久,漫长的岁月,无穷的纷争,不可能到现在什么进展都没有吧？ Was similar to you saying that your energetic life bodies have stood in the most peak of three-dimensional space life. 就如同你说的,你们这种精神生命体已经站在了三维空间生命的最顶峰了。 Then you at least should know compared with we more things. ” 那么你们至少应该知道一些比我们更多的东西。” The grey cat raises the claw, to the direction of sky, seems beckoning, then said: „I had asked you a moment ago, the life is anything.” 灰猫扬起爪子来,对着天空的方向,仿佛是招了招手,然后道:“我刚才问过你了,生命是什么。” „I also replied, but you did not say accurately.” “我也回答了,但你说不准确。” „ Naturally is inaccurate, the three dimensional life can only define the three dimensional life. However...... is not a point does not guess, always some approaches of imagination. “当然不准确,三维生命只能定义三维生命。不过……也不是一点都猜测不到,总有一些想象的思路。 For example, your human was not has made guess theoretically to the four-dimensional space. ” 比如,你们人类不是一直对四维空间做了很多理论上的猜测么。” This Chen Nuo knows some regarding the guess and imagination of four-dimensional space. 这个陈诺还是知道一些的对于四维空间的猜测和假想。 In fact, held 20 years later innumerable science fiction work luck, particularly in eight years of marine self- captivity, idle extremely bored Chen Yanluo to kill the time has also looked at many at sixes and sevens things. 事实上,托了二十年后无数的科幻作品的福,尤其是在海上自我囚禁的八年时间,闲极无聊的陈阎罗为了打发时间也看过很多乱七八糟的东西。 Simple and crude, human guessed regarding the four-dimensional space, in the existing three dimensional world, in addition a dimension. 简单粗暴的来说,人类对于四维空间猜测,就是在现有的三维世界上,加了一个维度。 The one-dimensional world is a line. 一维世界是一条线。 The two-dimensional world is a plane, is long and wide, the line has a plane to be long and wide, is the two axes of two-dimensional world. 二维世界是一个平面,也就是长和宽,行成个平面长和宽,就是二维世界的两个轴。 Three dimensional world, then yes: Is long, width, high. Line a three-dimensional world that has the volume, therefore the three axes of three dimensional world, are long, width, high. 三维世界,则是:长,宽,高。行成了一个有体积的立体世界,所以三维世界的三个轴,是长,宽,高。 So-called four-dimensional world, then must based on three dimensional world, find the fourth axis. 所谓的四维世界,则是要在三维世界的基础上,找到第四个轴。 As for the fourth axis is anything, the speculation and imaginary theory of mainstream, think are: Time. 至于第四个轴是什么,主流的推测和假想理论,认为是:时间。 Time! 时间！ In the Chen Nuo heart moves, the probe said: Is " fourth axis of four-dimensional space,...... the time? ” 陈诺心中一动,试探道:“四维空间的第四个轴,是……时间么？” „Possibly yes, possibly is not.” The grey cat shakes the head. “可能是,也可能不是。”灰猫摇头。 „What do you mean?” “什么意思？” Chen Nuo knits the brows to indicate that is unable to understand. 陈诺皱眉表示无法理解。 Regarding the imagination of four-dimensional space, Chen Nuo does not know nothing, after all massive science fiction works have similar elaboration. 对于四维空间的想象,陈诺也并不是完全一无所知,毕竟大量的科幻作品都有类似的论述。 The time is the four-dimensional space fourth axis. 时间是四维空间的第四根轴。 Simple and crude: Takes the time as the axis, superimposes the innumerable three-dimensional spaces, is the so-called four-dimensional space. 简单粗暴的来说:以时间为轴,把无数个三维空间叠加起来,就是所谓的四维空间。 But...... 但…… Then, the grey cat said the words. 接下来,灰猫笑着说了一番话。 „ So-called time, with your human the definition to the material universe, is all motions of matter, the change, long-enduring smooth performance. In other words, this is an abstract concept, but can be observed and perception. “所谓的时间,用你们人类的对物质宇宙的定义,是一切物质运动,变化,持续性顺序性的表现。也就是说,这是一种抽象的概念,但是可以被观察和感知到。 But this type ‚observation’ and ‚perception’, has the flaw. 但这种‘观察’和‘感知’,也是有缺陷的。 In other words, this type ‚perception’ and ‚observation’, is the foundation in the material world, namely, in ‚the three dimensional world’ under the theory frame conducts. 也就是说,这种‘感知’和‘观察’,也是基础于物质世界,即,在‘三维世界’的理论框架之下进行的。 The issue is...... was similar to me to ask a moment ago the definition of your life, a Datong that you and I said that was also only the definition of three dimensional world life. 问题是……就如同我刚才问你生命的定义,你和我说的一大通,也只是三维世界生命的定义。 Therefore, is the time, really the fourth axis? 所以,时间,真的是第四轴么？ The definition of time is: The endurance and regularity of movement and change of material...... 时间的定义是:物质的运动和变化的持续性和规律性…… We live in a three dimensional world, therefore our materials are the movement and change. Therefore we this movement and change, this concept define with ‚time’. 我们生活在一个三维世界,所以我们的物质是运动和变化的。所以我们把这种运动和变化,用‘时间’这个概念来进行定义。 The point is that does the four-dimensional space really have the secular variation of material? 可问题是,四维空间真的有物质的运动变化么？ Or the movement and change of material, are really exist eternal? 或者说,物质的运动和变化,真的是永恒存在的么？ Your human had discovered gradually, for example, the survey of time is not absolute, but is the change. 你们人类已经渐渐的发现了很多,比如,时间的测量上并不是绝对的,而是变化的。 For example, ‚time’ bases on perception and observation again results. 再比如,‘时间’是基于感知和观察才得出来的。 Even, if not perception does not observe, the definition of time almost turned into a pure abstract, it can be said that ‚did not exist’. 甚至于,如果不感知不观察的话,时间的定义就几乎变成了一个纯粹的抽象,可以说是‘不存在’了。 Therefore, treats as the four-dimensional space the time the fourth axis, we have also recognized this direction before. 所以,把时间当做四维空间的第四根轴,我们之前也一直是认定了这个方向。 However...... works as is farther, discovered more and more, possibly is not completely this. ” 但是……当走的越远,越来越发现,可能并不完全是这样。” Saw that Chen Nuo is knitting the brows, the grey cat traded an approach suddenly: „We said a very interesting view that a philosopher of your human incites, is very idealist, but is very interesting.” 眼看着陈诺在皱眉,灰猫忽然换了一个做法:“我们说一个你们人类的哲学家鼓捣出来的一个很有趣的说法,很唯心,但是很有意思。” „What?” “什么？” „You is a life, right?” “你是一个生命,对吧？” „Naturally.” “当然。” „ Good, then supposed, you died. “好,那么假设,你死掉了。 Then, had two phenomena. 那么,就有两种现象了。 Regarding the world, was you destroys. 对于世界而言,是你毁灭了。 But to you, was actually the world destroys. 而对于你而言,其实是世界毁灭了。 Got it? 明白了么？ So-called world, if stands your angle, country, family, society...... your friend, family member, your sentiment, mood...... 所谓的世界,如果站在你的角度来看,国家,家庭,社会……你的朋友,亲人,你的感情,情绪…… This mountain is very high, that sea is very extravagant, this cake is very sweet, that orange is very sour, this liquor is very spicy, that tea is very bitter...... 这个山很高,那个海很阔,这个蛋糕很甜,那个橘子很酸,这个酒很辣,那个茶很苦…… These by ‚the world that’ your angle defines. 这些就是以你的角度来定义的‘世界’。 Stands the angle of individual, so-called world, or so-called our ‚the three dimensional world’, by you perception, that observes exists. 站在个体的角度来说,所谓的世界,或者说,所谓的我们的‘三维世界’,是由你所感知,所观察出来的一个存在。 Got it? 明白了么？ To you, a normal person, your world is bright. 对于你来说,一个正常人,你的世界是光明的。 However regarding a blind person who lives is blind, his world is dark. 但是对于一个生下来就是失明的盲人来说,他的世界是黑暗的。 Regardless how you described with him again, explained, you are unable to make him understand anything is called ‚brightly’, you are unable to make him understand that anything is called ‚light’. 无论你再怎么和他去描述,去解释,你都无法让他明白什么叫做‘亮’,你都无法让他明白什么叫做‘光明’。 Therefore, so-called ‚the world’, actually, bases on the life individual perception, the thing that your perception arrives, composes ‚the world that’ you defined. 所以,所谓的‘世界’,其实,是基于生命个体的感知,你感知到的东西,组成了你所定义的‘世界’。 Once you died...... 而一旦你死掉了…… Chen Nuo, for example at this moment, you died suddenly. 陈诺,比如此刻,你忽然死掉了。 Then to you, was actually not you dies. 那么对于你来说,其实不是你死了。 But was your ‚the world’ destruction. All that in the world your child, your woman, your friend, your family, your enterprise, your country, you know...... in that flash that you die, perished, destruction. ” 而是你的‘世界’毁灭了。你的孩子,你的女人,你的朋友,你的家庭,你的事业,你的国家,你所知道的这个世界上的一切……在你死的那一瞬间,就灭亡了,毁灭了。” „......, but, it exists, this is objective.” Chen Nuo knits the brows: „Even if I died, but the world remains.” “……但,它还是存在的,这是客观。”陈诺皱眉:“即便我死了,但是世界还存在。” „May to your ‚individual’, you destroy, because you died, you are unable perception to observe again, therefore your world destroyed.” The grey cat, said with a smile at this point: „ From this definition...... actually, the world that each life individual perception arrives, is different. “可对你这个‘个体’来说,你毁灭了,因为你死了,你无法再感知再观察,所以你的世界毁灭了。”灰猫说到这里,笑道:“从这个定义来说……其实,每个生命个体所感知到的世界,都是不同的。 Inborn on person of blind, inborn on deaf-mute person, or inborn on color blindness person...... 天生就失明的人,天生就聋哑的人,或者天生就色盲的人…… Generalized, you have in the same world with these lives. 广义上来说,你和这些人生存在同一个世界里。 But...... from each of you's individual perspective, the world is also specifically speaking different. ” 但具体来说……从你们每个人的个人角度来说,世界又是不同的。” „Therefore...... the time isn't the four-dimensional space fourth axis?” Chen Nuo asked. “所以……时间并不是四维空间的第四根轴？”陈诺问道。 „...... On our guesses, the time likely is not the fourth axis.” The grey cat also replied. “不……就我们的猜测来说,时间很可能就是第四根轴。”灰猫却又这么回答了。 Chen Nuo stared in a big way the eye. 陈诺瞪大了眼睛。 „ But this time, is not the other time. “但此时间,非彼时间。 Time that we define, is the three dimensional life of three dimensional world, according to our observations and perception areas of competence, to three dimensional world the change movement of three dimensional material conducted observed the conclusion and definition that perception and summary drew. 我们定义的时间,是三维世界的三维生命,根据我们的观察和感知能力范围,对三维世界的三维物质的变化运动进行了观察感知和总结所做出的结论和定义。 In other words, we now so-called ‚time’, accurate, is ‚three-dimensional space time’. ” 也就是说,我们现在所谓的‘时间’,准确的来说,是‘三维空间的时间’。” Chen Nuo roughly understood the meaning of grey cat. 陈诺大体明白灰猫的意思了。 Our human definition „life”, said accurately, is not the definition of life, but is ‚three-dimensional space life’ definition. 我们人类定义的“生命”,准确的说,不是生命的定义,而是‘三维空间生命’的定义。 Because we are the three dimensional lives, we can only perception and observe the three dimensional life, therefore we can only to the three dimensional life formulation. 因为我们自己是三维生命,我们只能感知和观察到三维生命,所以我们只能对三维生命做出定义。 Similarly, our human definition „time”, said accurately, is not the definition of time, but is only „three-dimensional space time” definition! Because we as the three dimensional life, we can only perception and observe the three-dimensional space the time! We also can only define the three-dimensional space time. 同样的,我们人类定义的“时间”,准确的说,不是时间的定义,而只是“三维空间时间”的定义！因为我们身为三维生命,我们只能感知和观察到三维空间的时间！我们也只能对三维空间的时间进行定义。 Perhaps...... four-dimensional space ‚time’, with our ‚time’ the definition, is different!! 也许……四维空间的‘时间’,和我们的‘时间’的定义,是不同的！！ Chen Nuo pondered a while. 陈诺沉思了一会儿。 Human, the three dimensional life, regarding the definition of time is: 【Material】 The regularity and endurance of change and movement. 人类,三维生命,对于时间的定义是:【物质】的变化和运动的规律性和持续性。 But......, if four-dimensional space „material” definition, is different from the material of three-dimensional space, then the so-called time, the nature definition was different. 可……如果四维空间的“物质”定义,和三维空间的物质不同,那么所谓的时间,自然定义就不同了。 This Chen Nuo roughly can understand. 这个陈诺大体可以理解。 One-dimensional is a line. 一维是一条线。 Two-dimensional is a plane. 二维是一个平面。 Then first did not say one-dimensional. 那么先不说一维。 Two-dimensional world( plane world) the material, with the material of three dimensional world, is definitely different. 二维世界(平面世界)的物质,肯定就和三维世界的物质,是不同的。 Then, the material of three dimensional world, mostly also and material of four-dimensional space, is different. 那么,三维世界的物质,多半也和四维空间的物质,是不同的。 Since the material were different, then based on material the observation to three dimensional world, but summary ‚time’ this concept. 既然物质都不同了,那么基于对三维世界的物质的观察,而总结出的‘时间’这个概念。 Naturally likely to the four-dimensional space, cannot be suitable. 自然就很可能对四维空间,是不能适用的。 Then, the time of four-dimensional space...... is used to define? 那么,四维空间的时间……到底是用什么来定义的呢？ The movement and change of material...... continuing with rule...... 物质的运动和变化……的持续和规律…… In the Chen Nuo heart mumbled. 陈诺心中念念有词。 If the material were different, how then also to define the time? 如果物质不同了,那么还如何定义时间？ Used to define? Also has anything, uses in common in the three dimensional and four-dimensional space, but can compatible tallying: The movement, the change...... continues, rule...... these conditions? 用什么来定义？还有什么,是通用于三维和四维空间,但又能兼容的符合:运动,变化……持续,规律……这些条件？ Then, Chen Nuo deeply inspires suddenly, looks to the grey cat. 然后,陈诺忽然深吸了口气,看向了灰猫。 The grey cat smiled: „Guessed correctly?” 灰猫笑了:“猜到了？” The grey cat nods: „Actually this...... is also only our guesses, is not necessarily accurate, after all we have not succeeded, has not run up to the goal line, after no one knows that door, is what appearance.” 灰猫点了点头:“其实这个……也只是我们的猜测而已,未必准确,毕竟我们也没有成功过,都没跑到终点线,谁也不知道那扇门之后到底是什么样子。” Chen Nuo is serious: „ Therefore...... the fourth axis of four-dimensional space, truly is the time. 陈诺面色凝重:“所以……四维空间的第四根轴,确实是时间。 But this ‚time’ and we define ‚time’ was different. 但这个‘时间’和我们所定义的‘时间’是不同了。 We use ‚material’ to take the observation goal the time concept of definition, is not applicable to the four-dimensional space. 我们用‘物质’来作为观察目标而定义的时间概念,不适用于四维空间。 According to your speculations...... 按照你们的推测…… Conforms to the four-dimensional space the standard ‚time’ the definition, does not take the scale division with ‚material’. 符合四维空间的标准的‘时间’的定义,不是用‘物质’来作为刻度的。 But yes...... 而是…… Life! ” 生命！” The individual angle of each life, observed world is different. 每个生命的个体角度,所观察到的世界是不同的。 The innumerable lives, the theory, are equal to having the innumerable world innumerable three-dimensional spaces. 无数个生命,理论来说,就等于有无数个世界无数个三维空间。 This innumerable three-dimensional spaces, takes the life time to superimpose as the axis, namely so-called four-dimensional space. 把这无数个三维空间,以生命时间为轴叠加起来,即所谓的四维空间。 This is the meaning that the grey cat wants to indicate. 这就是灰猫想表述的意思。 Here life time, is not the so-called life can live many years many days...... 这里的生命时间,并不是所谓的生命能活多少年多少天…… But is other meaning. 而是别的意思。 „ Simple, is the individual life, the birth, perishes. Also is in the time definition ‚movement’ and ‚change’. “简单的来说,就是个体生命的,诞生,灭亡。也就是时间定义上的‘运动’和‘变化’。 Each life has the birth, perishes, this is the endurance, with regularity. 每个生命都有诞生,有灭亡,这就是持续性,和规律性。 That is, takes the life as the scale division ‚time’. 这就是,以生命为刻度的‘时间’。 Four-dimensional space ‚time’. ” 四维空间的‘时间’。” The grey cat shakes the head: „ Obtains this guess and imagination, is the guess of our energetic life body, is those words, we do not know that is to or wrong...... 灰猫摇头:“得到这个猜测和假想,是我们这种精神生命体的猜测,还是那句话,我们也不知道到底是对还是错…… Very possibly is right. 很可能是对的。 But a bigger possibility, is wrong. If wrong, then the final result is, we toward this direction spell to go all-out runs, seeks, evolves. 但更大的可能,是错误的。如果是错误的话,那么最终的结果就是,我们沿着这个方向拼尽全力的去奔跑,去寻找,去进化。 Runs up to finally, discovered that waits for our is not the goal line of successful evolution, does not shove open to jump out three dimensional, arrives in the four-dimensional that door. 跑到最终,发现等待我们的并不是成功进化的终点线,并不是推开跳出三维,抵达四维的那扇门。 But possibly is the dead end, is an iron wall. 而可能是死路一条,是一面铁壁。 But...... the position that all strengths of all that no matter how, currently has by us, grasps, stands, can see that can summarize, can guess that was these. ” 但……不管如何,以我们目前所拥有的一切,所掌握的一切力量,所站的位置,能看到的,能总结的,能猜测的,就是这些了。” Yes, is the supposition. 是的,是假设。 But by the altitude of ecological niche the parent body civilization and seed occupy, obviously has been higher than human. 但以母体文明和种子所占据的生态位的高度,显然已经高于人类了。 With their words, stood in the peak of three dimensional life. 用它们自己的话来说,是站在三维生命的巅峰了。 Then, perhaps, possibly, can their guesses, compared with the mankind's current imagination, be close to the real answer? 那么,也许,可能,它们的猜测,比人类目前的假想,要更接近真实答案？ „, The issue came. “那么,问题就来了。 If the fourth axis of four-dimensional space, is really the time. 如果四维空间的第四根轴,真的就是时间。 If the time definition of four-dimensional space, takes the scale division by ‚life’, rather than material. 如果四维空间的时间定义,是以‘生命’作为刻度,而不是物质。 Then...... 那么…… Returned to my initial that issue. 回到了我最初的那个问题。 Chen Nuo...... 陈诺…… Is the life, what? 生命,是什么？ I change a view again. 或者,我再换一个说法。 Does the life, originate from where? ” 生命,来源于哪里？” Chen Nuo was speechless. 陈诺无语了。 Does the life originate from where? 生命来源于哪里？ This issue...... 这个问题…… He remembered a few words suddenly. 他忽然想起了一句话来。 The person is the person TA mother lives, the monster is monster its mother lives. 人是人TA妈生的,妖是妖它妈生的。 Your mother your surname? 你妈贵姓？ …… ・ 【 Very important words: 【很重要的话: First, fat five I am the liberal arts, therefore these things are some at sixes and sevens things that I usually read and browse, then oneself imagine. Simple, compared with people branch also people branch! The true science subjects live, the brothers and sisters who study the physical particularly theoretical physics do not laugh at me, is only the imagination of family/home. 第一呢,胖五我是文科,所以这些东西都是我平时看书和涉猎到的一些乱七八糟的东西,然后自己想象出来的。简单的来说,比民科还民科！真正的理科生,学物理尤其是理论物理的兄弟姐妹别笑话我,只是家的想象而已。 Second, I know that these two chapters of contents are telling the concept. But, 2 million characters, must have some chapters is used to elaborate that the foundation setting of the world outlook and this story, this did not avoid. I will simplify these things as far as possible, however simplification at the same time, in one's power also said is more transparent. But, this type of chapter must have. 第二呢,我知道这两章的内容在讲述概念。但,两百万字的了,总要有一些章节是用来阐述世界观和这个故事的基础设定的,这个是避免不了。我会尽量简化这些东西,但是简化的同时,也力所能及的说的明了一些。但,这种章节是必须有的。 Third, this book is not the science fiction, the people branch in my people Kuwait, could not write the science fiction, but borrowed some concepts to come as improving one point of setting logic. 第三呢,这本书不是科幻,我这种民科中的民科,也写不了科幻,只是借用了一些概念来作为完善设定逻辑的一环。 Above. 以上。 Tomorrow will celebrate the new year, here wished everyone ahead of time, Year of the Tiger extraordinarily good luck, imposing! 】 明儿就是过年了,这里提前祝大家,虎年大吉,虎虎生威！】 …… ・ …… ・ Likes standing firm other wave to ask everyone to collect: Standing firm other wave studying net refresh rate is quickest. 喜欢稳住别浪请大家收藏:稳住别浪读书网更新速度最快。