SHMS :: Volume #17

#1693: Western region religion 1


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Right, I heard that daoist to say before, this group of believers seem like from the Tibetan region move, said ancient grave that we must dig, is Spiritual God tomb that they consecrate, they come here responsibility, protects the mausoleum is not unearthed by the bystander for the god, for this reason does not hesitate to kill all intruding on......” “对了,我之前听到那道士说,这帮教徒似乎是从藏区迁徙过来的,说我们要挖的古墓,是他们供奉的神灵的墓地,他们来到这里的责任,就是为神守护陵墓不被外人挖掘,为此不惜杀死一切进犯者……” Then, Ye Shaoyang realizes anything, looks at each other one with Four Treasures, two people were shocked, finally Ye Shaoyang inspires saying: What...... in this mausoleum will not bury is Sakra?” 说完,叶少阳意识到什么,跟四宝对视一眼,两人都愣住了,最后还是叶少阳吸了口气说道:“不会……这陵墓里埋的是帝释天吧?” The vibration of Four Treasures innermost feelings, is hard to speak. 四宝内心的震动,难以言说。 Professor Sun actually does not dare the interest in their words, is chewing the Ye Shaoyang words repeatedly, Tibetan region, the Tibetan region......” pats the thigh fiercely, I thought!!” 孙教授却对他们的话不敢兴趣,反复嘴嚼着叶少阳的话,“藏区来的,藏区……”猛地一拍大腿,“我想到了!!” Everyone opens the eye to visit him. 所有人都睁大眼睛看着他。 Professor Sun and thought for quite a while, muttered: Aiya, I must go back to check the material, by determining!” 孙教授怔怔地又想了半天,喃喃道:“哎呀,我要回去查一查资料,以确定一下!” Waited for quite a while to wait to come out such, everyone was very depressed, Ye Shaoyang said: Goes back to check again, you first said, what you did think of?” 等了半天等出来这么一句,大家都很郁闷,叶少阳说道:“回去再查吧,您先说,你想到什么了?” Is unascertainable, but has a guess...... heard Bon?” “还不能确定,只是一种猜测……诸位听说过苯教没有?” Everyone shakes the head, is completely strange to this noun, only then Fang Mengna said: Teacher Sun said that is Yungdrung Bon of Tibet?” 大家都摇头,对这个名词完全陌生,只有方蒙娜说道:“孙老师说的,是西藏的雍仲本教?” The Professor Sun applause nods, Yungdrung Bon, what belief is the likely male Buddhist doctrine, but this is Buddhism enters conceals, after the primitive religion absorbs, the belief of gradually forming, beforehand Bon, is almost a primitive belief, afterward gradually developed to become the likely male Buddhist doctrine.” 孙教授赞许地点点头,“雍仲本教,信仰的是古象雄佛法,但这是佛教入藏,被原始宗教吸收之后,才逐渐形成的信仰,之前的苯教,差不多是一种原始信仰,后来逐渐发展成为古象雄佛法。” Four Treasures strange say/way: What Bon is teaches, haven't I heard? I only know Tibetan Buddhism, isn't that the traditional religion of Tibet?” 四宝奇道:“苯教是什么教,我怎么从来没听说过?我只知道藏传佛教,那不是西藏的传统宗教吗?” Bon currently also has the inheritance, but the influence is small, you had not heard is also normal, Princess Wenchang as we all know?” 苯教现在还有传承,不过影响力非常小,你没听说过也是正常的,文成公主大家都知道吧?” Ye Shaoyang flexure said difficultly: Is Wei Xiaobao marries that?” 叶少阳挠了挠头道:“是韦小宝娶得那个吗?” Four Treasures rolled the eyes at him said: Talked nonsense anything, that Wei Xiaobao married who was...... I forgets is Princess Taiping or, in any case was not Princess Wenchang, Princess Wenchang this I know, the Tang Dynasty time bestowed the marriage to give Tibet the king Songtsen Gampo imperial family ancestor and relative.” 四宝白了他一眼道:“瞎说什么,韦小宝娶的那是……我忘了是太平公主还是谁了,反正不是文成公主,文成公主这个我知道,唐朝时候赐婚给西藏君王松赞干布的皇室宗亲。” Professor Sun said: „ Yes, Tibet also called Turfan at that time, Songtsen Gampo married Princess Wenchang, after that Turfan has professed allegiance to Tang, studies the Han Chinese culture, Buddhism also entered Turfan at this time, after Tibetan Buddhism expands day by day, becomes Turfan national religion, as the matter stands, the Turfan religion has less had the feeling, Bon declines like this. 孙教授道:“是的,那个时候西藏还叫吐蕃,松赞干布娶了文成公主,此后吐蕃一直对大唐称臣,学习汉族文化,佛教也是这个时候进入吐蕃的,藏传佛教日益壮大之后,成为吐蕃的‘国教’,这样一来,吐蕃本土的宗教就越来越没有存在感,苯教就是这样没落的。 On the other hand is, Bon and other religions of Turfan, in actively or absorbs the element in Buddhism passively, until now, Bon and other difference of religious and Tibetan Buddhism getting smaller, in some sense, has become a branch of Buddhism. ” 另外一方面就是,苯教等一些吐蕃的宗教,也在主动或者被动地吸收佛教中的元素,时至今日,苯教等宗教与藏传佛教的区别越来越小,从某种意义上说,已经成为佛教的一个分支。” Ye Shaoyang was not interested in these religious history, listening to Professor Sun to say so many, a little dazzling feeling, Four Treasures was a monk, listened to the Buddhism history on earnest many, hesitated, said: Professor Sun thought that these believers are the Bon disciples?” 叶少阳对这些宗教历史不感兴趣,听孙教授说了这么多,有点眼花缭乱的感觉,四宝是和尚,听佛门的历史就认真的多,沉吟了一下,道:“孙教授觉得这些教徒是苯教弟子?” Should be a Bon branch, even if not, still certainly is the branches of other Tibetan region small religions, first, the Grandmaster you had concluded, what they consecrate is Sakra of Buddhism, they from the Tibetan region, meet these two conditions, definitely Tibetan region native place religion represented by Bon.” “应该是苯教的一个分支,就算不是,也一定是藏区其余小宗教的分支,一来,大师你已经断定,他们供奉的是佛教的帝释天,二来,他们又是从藏区来的,符合这两个条件的,肯定就是以苯教为代表的藏区本土宗教了。” Four Treasures thinks, thought that this analysis is very reasonable, spoke thoughtlessly to ask: Listens rationally, as if understands the religious history that you said very much, why you have not thought that before Bon does come up?” 四宝想了想,也觉得这种分析很有道理,随口问道:“听你说的头头是道,似乎很了解宗教历史,为什么你以前没想到苯教上去?” Professor Sun sighed: This was I did not see the forest for the trees, I have not thought toward the Tibetan region religion on, wholeheartedly is only thinking was related with Buddhism, in various Han Chinese area inspections...... said again my attention all in clarifying this idol status, somewhat put the cart before the horse actually. As for these religious history, I make the archaeology after all, about the ancient civilization had not certainly known that is not good.” 孙教授叹道:“这是我一叶障目了,我是没往藏区宗教上面想,一心只想着跟佛教有关,在汉族地区各种考察……再说我注意力全都在弄清这尊神像的身份上,倒是有些本末倒置了。至于这些宗教历史啊,我毕竟是做考古的,对古文化没有一定了解可不行。” Four Treasures nods, thought that Lop Nor belongs to Xinjiang, does not belong to Tibet, the Professor Sun attention has not placed Tibet, is excusable. 四宝点点头,心想罗布泊属于新疆,又不属于西藏,孙教授注意力没放在西藏方面,也是情有可原。 I have never thought that the solar grave has the relations with the traditional religion of Tibetan region unexpectedly......” “真没想到,太阳墓居然跟藏区的传统宗教扯上关系……” Thinks of this point, Professor Sun is also excited, the sound shiver said that this news, if announced, absolutely was an entire archeological world earthquake, I...... Mister Ye, Grandmaster Four Treasures, Section Chief Cao, future will make a testimony, this startled day secret, was my Sun...... not, was we discovers together!” 想到这一点,孙教授也不免激动起来,声音颤抖地说道,“这个消息如果公布出去,绝对是整个考古界的一次地震,我……叶先生,四宝大师,曹科长,诸位将来做个见证,这个惊天秘密,是我孙某人……不,是我们大家一起发现的!” Ye Shaoyang beckons with the hand, says with a smile: „, It is not your one person discovered that we do not struggle this. However Professor Sun you , to live nice going back, all hear of I arrange, do not act presumptuously.” 叶少阳摆摆手,笑道:“不不,是你一个人发现的,我们可不争这个。不过孙教授你要是想活着好生生的回去,一切听我安排,别擅自行动。” Professor Sun is the typical scholar, in the eye only has the scientific research, to placing environment and schemes and tricks and so on has a concept, simply does not have the profound judgment, even does not want to understand, has Ye Shaoyang and Four Treasures they take responsibility on oneself, oneself is only responsible for the excavation discovery, meets one's satisfaction again. Listened to the Ye Shaoyang words, makes an effort to nod. 孙教授是典型的学者,眼中只有科研,对身处的环境和阴谋诡计之类的只是有个概念,根本没有深刻的判断,甚至也不想去了解,有叶少阳四宝他们大包大揽,自己只负责考古发掘,正是再合意不过。听了叶少阳的话,用力点头。 Four Treasures said: Merit anything, we do not struggle with the old gentleman, we discussed the practical problem, no matter these believers from Bon, they can walk to come to here from the Tibetan region, lived in this bad environment is so long, only to protect the ancient grave, that showing, in this ancient grave had certainly very important thing!” 四宝道:“功劳什么的,咱不跟老爷子争,咱们来讨论一下现实问题,不管那些教徒是不是来自苯教,他们能够从藏区一路走来这里,在这恶劣的环境下生活这么久,只为了守护古墓,那说明,这古墓里一定有非常重要的东西!” The Ye Shaoyang nod said: Daoist Zikun did not say, in this ancient grave is burying their gods.” Remembers topic that beforehand has not come and openly expressed that asked: Always isn't Sakra this worthy/main body?” 叶少阳点头道:“紫坤道人不是说,这个古墓里埋葬着他们的神吗。”想起之前没来及说开的话题,问道:“总不会是帝释天本尊吧?” The Four Treasures corners of the mouth pulled out pulling out, said: Sakra this worthy/main body...... this should not be possible. In the record according to Buddhism ancient book, Sakra is the head of Twenty Deva, is Buddhism official god......” 四宝嘴角抽了抽,道:“帝释天本尊……这个应该不可能。按照佛门典籍上的记录,帝释天二十诸天之首,是佛门正式的神祇……” Ye Shaoyang breaks him saying: Do not pull this, the Asura legend is the Asura Path protector, the result does not come human world to join in the fun.” 叶少阳打断他说道:“别扯这个,阿修罗传说是修罗道的守护者呢,结果不也来人间凑热闹。” Listened to me saying that I do not believe anything achieved Buddhahood a saying, but according to me thinks, since Asura in Immeasurable Realm, after Sakra were converted Buddhism, perhaps should also in that side, mix with Bodhisattva Ksitigarbha, should not in human world.” “听我说完,我是不相信什么成佛一说,不过据我想,既然阿修罗无量界,帝释天皈依佛门之后,或许应该也在那边,跟着地藏王菩萨混,应该不在人间。” Professor Sun interrupted saying: „ I insert one, these that you said that I do not understand, but before me the experience of archaeology, the god of many religious worship, is actually not the real god, this in domestic and foreign is the same, an Egyptian Chong Mei pharaoh, said that oneself is the sons of such and such god, the people believes in firmly, therefore regards god to worship piously the pharaoh. 孙教授插嘴说道:“我插一句啊,你们说的这些,我都不懂,不过根据我之前考古的经验,很多宗教崇拜的神,其实并不是真的神,这个在国内外都一样,埃及人崇每一任的法老,都说自己是某某神的儿子,民众对此深信不疑,于是就把法老当成神祇来敬奉。 This is Sakra, perhaps also similar belief? For example some great ancestor, was regarded after by the believers is Sakra reincarnation or son and so on...... he died, burying here, the believers thought that protects his imperial mausoleum, is the oneself responsibility is, has this possibility? ” 这个帝释天,或许也是类似的信仰呢?例如某位伟大的先祖,被教民当成是帝释天转世或者儿子之类的……他死了之后,埋葬在这里,教民们觉得守护他的陵寝,是自己的责任所在,有没有这种可能?”
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