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#326: Discussion war


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The war, forever is a heavy topic. 战争,永远都是一个沉甸甸的话题。 When hears Yun Jing to inquire about border pass war view, Zhou Yu they received the smile gradually. 当听到云景问及边关战争看法的时候,周玉他们一个个都渐渐收起了笑容。 No one spoke at once, the atmosphere was somewhat silent, beforehand laughing heartily was nothing left immediately. 一时之间没有人说话,气氛有些沉默,之前的欢笑顿时荡然无存。 It is not Yun Jing must sabotage the atmosphere intentionally, really by the current situation, as long as a little person of cognition gathers, the war is the topic that cannot wipe. 并非云景要故意破坏气氛,实在是以当下的局势,但凡有点认知的人聚集在一起,战争都是一个抹不开的话题。 The Zhang Fulu brow slightly wrinkle, alcohol to drown one's sorrows gets into the stomach, on the wine glass numerous place tables, does not know at once how to answer. 张福禄眉头微皱,一口闷酒下肚,酒杯重重的放在桌子上,一时之间不知道如何作答。 Zhou Yu opens the mouth to break the silent say/way: „ Brother Yun younger brother issue asked well, could look, although the Brother Yun younger brother the age was smaller than us, but asked that this issue, obviously had an emotional tie with the family/home country world, I and others blushed with shame...... „ 周玉开口打破沉默道:“云兄弟这个问题问得好,看得出来,云兄弟虽然年纪都比我们小,但问出这个问题,明显心系家国天下,我等汗颜……“ Comes, everyone discusses the discussion together, spoke freely, wants saying that anything said anything, I and other scholars, studied a lot of knowledge, when was an armchair strategist, analyzed the situation, could not say when the present discussion can apply “来来来,大家一起探讨探讨,畅所欲言,想说什么就说什么,我等读书人,学了一肚子学问,就当纸上谈兵,分析一下局势,说不得现在的探讨什么时候就能派上用场了” Fang Jie said: Right, everyone discusses, according to information that has personally, profits by opinions from various sources, can look analyze current war 方杰接话道:“对,大家探讨一下,根据个人掌握的信息,集思广益,看看能不能分析一下当前战局” The topic opens, positive. 话题打开,一个个都积极了起来。 Lu Jiang hesitates saying: „, It is not I improperly belittles oneself, is not I must help others power and prestige extinguish the spirit, to be honest, I really do not favor immediately the situation!” 卢江沉吟道:“诸位,不是我妄自菲薄,也不是我要助他人威风灭自己志气,说实话,我真不看好当下局势!” Lu brother meant, the war is disadvantageous to my Great Li?”, Zhou Yu visits him to ask. “卢兄的意思是说,战局对我大离不利?”,周玉看着他问。 Several people do not have, because Lu Jiang has any discontented negatively, before said that everyone discussed that speaks freely, Lu Jiang said that naturally had his truth. 几人都没有因为卢江的消极而有任何不满,之前都说了,大家讨论,畅所欲言,卢江那么说自然有他的道理。 Yun Jing complexion tranquil say/way: Hope hears Qixiang 云景面色平静道:“愿闻其详” Thinks, Lu Jiang said: I from three aspects elaborated why I think the war is disadvantageous to my Great Li, if there is an incorrect place, toward points out mistakes to me 想了想,卢江说:“我从三个方面阐述一下为何我个人认为战局对我大离不利,若有不对的地方,往诸位给我指正” Its one, from the overall war, the war has been actually disadvantageous to my Great Li, as we all know, this continues many years of war, the cause is cruelly harmed to cause by Great River Dynasty because of Master Chen, the master are our generation scholar's belief, this enmity cannot do without reporting, therefore my Great Li launches this war not wrong, the point is that we as the main action side, actually the long time cannot capture, master's enmity cannot result in reports, this is very big to the imposing manner attack of officers, is many year of war big consumption national strength, this is one has to facing reality, this. Is its one “其一,从整体战局来看,其实战争一直就对我大离不利,大家都知道,这场持续多年的战争,起因是因为陈夫子被大江王朝残害而引起的,夫子是我辈读书人的信仰,此仇不可不报,所以我大离发动这场战争并没有错,可问题是,我们作为主战方,却久攻不下,夫子的仇至今都没能得报,这对将士们的气势打击很大,然后就是多年的战争大大的消耗国力,这是一个不得不面对的现实,这是其一” Its two, we know, starts at the beginning of the war, our Great Li Dynasty faces besieging of northern three countries simultaneously, although main battlefield Great River Dynasty, but Mulberry Net Dynasty and gold/metal wolf dynasty are also noticeable, by an enemy three, the manpower and resources that these years consume are unable to imagine simply, continue again, could not need several years, the war that likely this refused to compromise can burn out our Great Li Dynasty, once the national strength could not follow, at the appointed time the northern three countries went south in one vigorous effort on a large scale, the consequence is unable to imagine!” “其二,我们都知道,从战争开始之初,我们大离王朝就同时面对北方三个国家的围攻,虽然主战场在大江王朝这边,但桑罗王朝和金狼王朝也不可忽视,以一敌三啊,这些年来消耗的人力物力简直无法想象,再继续下去,要不了几年,很可能这僵持不下的战争就能把我们大离王朝拖垮,一旦国力跟不上,到时北方三国一鼓作气大举南下,后果无法想象!” Its three, were the highest-end strengths, although we understand, the army was leads the war situation the key, but the high-end strength might reverse existence of war at one stoke, based on this, what I must say, our Great Li Dynasty, initially four masters time, but can also maintain the border to be balanced, but Master Chen have fallen from the sky for many years, not new master appeared, this made us the high-end strength be short of one, I said the eventuality, if the north three countries were not concerned about face sent out the myth boundary powerhouse to act, us had no way to send out to exist to deal correspondingly, the consequence you can. Thinks?” “其三,就是最高端战力了,虽然我们都明白,军队才是主导战争大势的关键,可高端战力却是有可能一举扭转战局的存在,基于这点,我要说的是,我们大离王朝,当初有四位夫子的时候,还能维持边境平衡,可陈夫子已经陨落多年,并无新的夫子出现,这使得我们这边的高端战力少了一位,我说万一,万一北方三国不要脸的派出神话境强者出手,我们这边没法派出相应存在应对,后果你们能想到吗?” From these three points, the overall war is disadvantageous to my Great Li Dynasty, moreover is the big disadvantage, I can see these three points, the northern three countries must know that these advantages, they have not gone south at one fell swoop, I guess that they should want to consume my Great Li Dynasty national strength with the war, when goes south to the time maturely in one vigorous effort, such can obtain the brilliant achievement at the minimum price “从这三点来看,整体战局是对我大离王朝不利的,而且是大大的不利,我都能看到这三点,北方三国不可能不知道这几个优势,他们之所以还未一举南下,我猜他们应该是想用战争消耗我大离王朝国力,待到时机成熟一鼓作气南下,那样就能以最小的代价取得辉煌战果了” I must say is these, what everyone has to supplement? If thought that I was wrong, please put out practical reason “我要说的就是这些,大家有什么补充的吗?如果觉得我说得不对,请拿出切实的理由” Lu Jiang spoke with confidence, said own analysis, then looked to Yun Jing they. 卢江侃侃而谈,把自己的分析说了出来,然后看向云景他们。 His analysis is not groundless, after listening, Zhou Yu and the others complexions is unattractive, the brow tight wrinkle analyzes these that he said that wants the place of rebuttal. 他这一通分析不无道理,听完后周玉等人一个个脸色都不好看,眉头紧皱分析他说的这些,想要出反驳之处。 Tells the truth, on the scene, although is the scholar, but the informed sources channel is very deficient, says based on the information that oneself have, in fact said again many are not big to the true situation relations. 有一说一,在场的虽然是读书人,但消息来源渠道还是很匮乏的,所说的都是基于自己掌握的信息,实际上说得再多对真正的局势关系不大。 However the discussion, spoke freely well, to wrong immaterial, some people will not laugh. 然而探讨嘛,畅所欲言就好,对错无关紧要,也不会有人笑话。 Zhang Fulu hesitates saying: I, although does not want to acknowledge, but also has saying that the war is really disadvantageous to my Great Li, said these that based on the Rwandan brother, I add a point again, is the second point that he said 张福禄沉吟道:“我虽然很不想承认,但也不得不说,战局真对我大离不利,基于卢兄说的这些,我再补充一点,就是他说的第二点” In my opinion, the northern three countries are not grasshopper on a rope, particularly the gold/metal wolf dynasty and Mulberry Net Dynasty, they are present at work do not strive, for the purpose of constraining my Great Li part of energy, what perhaps thinks is our Great Li and great river is mutually wounded, then they quite pick up a bargain, otherwise, if the northern three countries whole-heartedly, perhaps have really gone south on a large scale “在我看来,北方三国也并非一条绳上的蚂蚱,尤其是金狼王朝和桑罗王朝,他们可谓出工不出力,旨在拖住我大离一部分精力,恐怕想的是我们大离和大江两败俱伤,然后他们好捡便宜,否则的话,若北方三国真全力以赴,恐怕早已大举南下了” Then, what I must say, the present situation also refuses to compromise, once my Great Li presents the advantage that some type makes them dread, at that time the northern three countries for the self-interest, will join up absolutely truly!” “然后,我还要说的是,眼下的局势还只是僵持罢了,一旦我大离这边出现某种让他们忌惮的优势,那时北方三国为了自身利益,绝对会真正联合起来的!” I said that also thought that the war was disadvantageous to us, what everyone had to supplement?” “我说完了,也觉得战局对我们不利,大家有什么要补充的吗?” The point that Zhang Fulu adds is not groundless. 张福禄补充的这点也不无道理。 The fact is also, although the northern three countries the national strength is different, but single country also not compared with Great Li difference many, particularly gold/metal wolf dynasty, even the national strength also be stronger than Great Li, if their three countries really do not count the price to join up to go south, perhaps Great Li really cannot withstand. 事实也是,北方三国虽然国力不同,但单个国家也并不比大离这边差多少,尤其是金狼王朝,甚至国力还要比大离更强,如果他们三个国家真的不计代价联合起来南下,大离这边恐怕真的顶不住。 Reason that the war can drag now, because their three countries have not joined up truly. 之所以战争能拖到现在,还是因为他们三国并没有真正联合起来。 Fang Jie proposed at this time the different opinions, said: I and Lu brother stretch/open brother's view is different, I felt situation you have not said is so bad, you first listened to me to say......” 方杰此时提出了不同意见,道:“我和卢兄张兄的看法不同,我觉得局势并没有你们说的那么糟糕,你们先听我说……” Why I said that the war is not bad, the reason also three points, its one, seems like that the northern three countries want to burn out my Great Li taking advantage of the war, but my Great Li is not easy to burn out, how many years ago the appearance of farm manure do you know? The grain production, considerably increased my Great Li national strength, has the grain, the officers have the food to eat, can train the soldier to rush to the border pass continuously, by the consumption, my Great Li does not fear at present, naturally, the war and is not only only the food consumption, but there is a grain is actually very essential “为什么我说战局没那么糟糕呢,理由也有三点,其一,看似北方三国想借战争拖垮我大离,但我大离可不是那么容易拖垮的,几年前农家肥的出现你们知道吧?粮食增产,大大增加了我大离国力,有粮食,将士们就有饭吃,就能源源不断的培养士兵奔赴边关,论消耗,我大离目前并不惧,当然,战争并不仅仅只是粮食消耗,但有粮食却是很关键的” Its two, Lu brother stretch/open the brother only saw the northern three countries want to burn out my Great Li, actually neglected a point, in recent years, the northern three-country homes are not peaceful, their how many countries almost make various disasters year after year, do this you have hearing? They suffer a calamity, which type does the disaster relief relief disaster not to need massive manpower and resources? But my Great Li good crop weather grain production, is actually in inverse proportion, perhaps this is also reason that the northern three countries have not gone south on a large scale “其二,卢兄张兄只看到了北方三国想要拖垮我大离,却忽略了一点,这些年来,北方三国国内并不太平,他们几个国家几乎年年闹各种灾害,这点你们也有耳闻吧?他们闹灾,救灾赈灾哪样不需要大量人力物力?而我大离却风调雨顺粮食增产,此消彼长啊,恐怕这也是北方三国迟迟没有大举南下的原因” Then was the third point that I must say, we did not favor our Great Li here, analyzed so many unfavorable factors, but you thought that billowing Zhu in deliberation hall couldn't see these? Why is the war still continuing? My Great Li has taken advantage surely, but we do not know that otherwise, knows perfectly well the situation to be disadvantageous, perhaps the royal government has found the way to end the war, even if cedes territory and pays indemnities, always feels better facing the anger of northern three countries!” “然后就是我要说的第三点了,我们大家在这里不看好我们大离,分析出这么多不利因素,可你们觉得朝堂上的滚滚诸公就看不到这些吗?为何战争还在继续?我大离必定有所依仗,只是我们不知道罢了,否则的话,明知局势不利,朝廷恐怕早就想办法结束战争了,哪怕割地赔款,也总好过面对北方三个国家的怒火!” Ok, I must refute on these three points, who approved who opposed?” “好了,我要反驳的就这三点,谁赞成谁反对?” Then, Fang Jie looks to everyone. 说完,方杰看向各位。 Zhou Yu thinks saying: Your both sides said rational, I also express my view 周玉想了想说:“你们双方都说得有理,我也发表一下我的看法吧” What I must say, why not do our thoughts jump out of the present war? I think, the war projects on the present, what is the reason? The reason is Master Chen falls from the sky, when our attention centralized in war, so long as in fact my Great Li can revenge to Master Chen, this time continues many years of war, even if our Great Li successfully served the purpose!” “我要说的是,我们的思维何不跳出眼下的战局?我是这么想的,战争打到现在,原因是什么?原因是陈夫子陨落,当我们的注意力都集中在战局上的时候,实际上只要我大离能给陈夫子报仇,这次持续多年的战争,我们大离就算胜利达到目的了!” Hiss ~! 嘶~! Listened to Zhou Yu saying that Lu Jiang they attracted an cold air/Qi subconsciously. 周玉这么说,卢江他们下意识吸了一口冷气。 Thought of some possibility! 都想到了某种可能性! Is prone making exaggerated , sensationalistic statements, he jumped out of the limitation of thought to focus on third unexpectedly. 语不惊人死不休啊,他居然跳出了思维的局限性着眼第三处。 Yes, the original intention of war to give Master Chen revenges, once can revenge, the goal was achieved, this on behalf of some war aspect that Great Li is starting is the victory! 是啊,战争的初衷就是为了给陈夫子报仇,一旦能报仇,目的就达到了,这代表着大离发动的战争某方面来说是胜利的! Lu Jiang is pulling out the cold air/Qi sinking sound said: Zhou brother meant, our Great Li , in fact also in wants to manage a farad enemy myth boundary to be buried along with the dead for Master Chen in recent years?” 卢江抽着冷气沉声道:“周兄的意思是说,我们大离这边,这些年来,实际上也在想办法拉一位敌国神话境为陈夫子陪葬?” I may not have saying that but the matter on royal government, who knows, Zhou Yu shakes the head to say. “我可没这么说,但朝廷上的事情,谁知道呢”,周玉摇摇头道。 This topic some extremely shock everybody, is discrete good. 这个话题有些太过惊世骇俗,还是谨慎些的好。 They very tactful no longer continues this, Zhang Fulu actually knits the brows: But the issue emerged as the matter stands, even if our Great Li, just like Zhou the brother said did that, serves the purpose, but the present war is actually the fact, how to settle? Moreover, if really served the purpose, the northern three countries have't can be insane? That existed, but the supporting-heaven pillar of country, our here lost one not to hesitate to launch the war, if they fell from the sky, but also can not retaliate crazily, in that case, the war will certainly be more frigid!” 他们都很识趣的不再继续这点,张福禄却皱眉道:“可这样一来问题又出现了,即使我们大离这边正如周兄所说的那样做,达到目的了,可眼下的战争却是事实啊,如何善后?而且,若真达到目的了,北方三国还不得疯?那等存在可是国之擎天柱,我们这边失去一位都不惜发动战争了,若他们陨落一位,还不得疯狂报复,那样一来,战争必将更加惨烈!” Zhou Yu is actually narrows the eye saying: stretch/open brother said is not groundless, but if my doesn't Great Li prepare only to draw that existence to be buried along with the dead to Master Chen? If many pulls how many, at that time northern three-country also not scareds out of one's wits? What courage do they have to go south?” 周玉却是眯眼道:“张兄说得不无道理,可要是我大离不准备只拉一位那种存在给陈夫子陪葬呢?若是多拉几个,那时北方三国还不吓破胆?他们还有什么勇气南下?” This......!” “这……!” The people show the panic-stricken expression, does not know how to refute. 众人露出惊骇表情,不知道如何反驳。 Yes, if Great Li here one-off Radow enemy myth boundary is buried along with the dead to Master Chen, when the time comes the northern three National Security dare to go south! 是啊,若是大离这边一次性拉多个敌国神话境的给陈夫子陪葬,到时候北方三国安敢南下! The point is that Great Li such will really do? 可问题是,大离这边真的会那样做吗? Can achieve? 能做到吗? Zhou Yu said with a smile suddenly: Good good, we were an armchair strategist, how who knew specifically 周玉突然笑道:“好啦好啦,我们只是纸上谈兵说说而已,具体怎么样谁知道呢” Also yes, what no matter the situation evolves, to the entire general situation, we was too insignificant , can only discuss here, the Fang Jie forced smile said. “也是,不管局势演变成什么样,对整个大局而言,我们都太微不足道了,也只能在这里探讨一下而已”,方杰苦笑道。 At this time Zhou Yu looked that said to Yun Jing: Right, was the Brother Yun younger brother raises about border pass war issue, what view regarding this did you have?” 此时周玉看向云景道:“对了,关于边关战局这个问题是云兄弟提出来的,对此你有什么看法?” You who the Yun Jing secretly thought should say said that I have anything to say. 云景暗道该说的你们都说完啦,我还有什么好说的。 Listened to their these analyses, Yun Jing to acknowledge, their several people had the original idea, only depending on grasping the shallow information analyzed so many, even if no egg used. 听了他们这些分析,云景不得不承认,他们几人还是有自己独特见解的,仅凭掌握的粗浅信息就分析出了这么多,哪怕没什么卵用。 Zhou Yu makes Yun Jing express the view, they said similarly, what did Yun Jing add? 周玉云景发表看法,他们都说得差不多了,云景还说啥? Even if there is saying that some things I cannot say here, must result in rottenly in the belly, how otherwise oneself died does not know. 即使有说的,那些些东西我也不能在这里说啊,必须得烂在肚子里的,否则自己怎么死的都不知道。 However, just like Zhou Yu said, this topic is he raises, does not express the view not to be justified. 不过吧,正如周玉所说,这个话题是他提出来的,不发表一下看法说不过去。 What should oneself say? 那自己该说点啥? ...... ……
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