The war, foreveris a heavytopic.
战争,永远都是一个沉甸甸的话题。WhenhearsYun Jingto inquire aboutborder passwarview, Zhou Yutheyreceived the smilegradually.
当听到云景问及边关战争看法的时候,周玉他们一个个都渐渐收起了笑容。No onespokeat once, the atmospherewas somewhat silent, beforehandlaughing heartilywas nothing leftimmediately.
一时之间没有人说话,气氛有些沉默,之前的欢笑顿时荡然无存。
It is not Yun Jingmustsabotage the atmosphereintentionally, reallyby the currentsituation, as long asa little person of cognitiongathers, the waris the topic that cannot wipe.
并非云景要故意破坏气氛,实在是以当下的局势,但凡有点认知的人聚集在一起,战争都是一个抹不开的话题。
The Zhang Fulubrowslightlywrinkle, alcohol to drown one's sorrowsgets into the stomach, on the wine glassnumerousplacetables, does not knowat oncehowto answer.张福禄眉头微皱,一口闷酒下肚,酒杯重重的放在桌子上,一时之间不知道如何作答。Zhou Yuopens the mouthto break the silentsay/way: „ Brother Yunyounger brotherissueaskedwell, could look, although the Brother Yunyounger brother the agewas smaller than us, butasked that thisissue, obviouslyhad an emotional tie with the family/homecountryworld, Iand othersblushed with shame...... „周玉开口打破沉默道:“云兄弟这个问题问得好,看得出来,云兄弟虽然年纪都比我们小,但问出这个问题,明显心系家国天下,我等汗颜……“„Comes, everyonediscusses the discussiontogether, spoke freely, wants saying that anythingsaidanything, Iand other scholars, studieda lot ofknowledge, whenwas an armchair strategist, analyzed the situation, could not say when the presentdiscussioncanapply”
“来来来,大家一起探讨探讨,畅所欲言,想说什么就说什么,我等读书人,学了一肚子学问,就当纸上谈兵,分析一下局势,说不得现在的探讨什么时候就能派上用场了”Fang Jiesaid: „Right, everyonediscusses, according toinformation that haspersonally, profits by opinions from various sources, can lookanalyzecurrentwar”方杰接话道:“对,大家探讨一下,根据个人掌握的信息,集思广益,看看能不能分析一下当前战局”
The topicopens, positive.
话题打开,一个个都积极了起来。Lu Jianghesitates saying: „, It is not Iimproperly belittles oneself, is notImusthelp others power and prestigeextinguish the spirit, to be honest, Ireallydo not favorimmediately the situation!”卢江沉吟道:“诸位,不是我妄自菲薄,也不是我要助他人威风灭自己志气,说实话,我真不看好当下局势!”„Lubrothermeant, the waris disadvantageoustomyGreat Li?”, Zhou Yuvisitshimto ask.
“卢兄的意思是说,战局对我大离不利?”,周玉看着他问。Severalpeopledo not have, becauseLu Jianghasanydiscontentednegatively, before said that everyone discussed that speaks freely, Lu Jiangsaid that naturallyhadhistruth.
几人都没有因为卢江的消极而有任何不满,之前都说了,大家讨论,畅所欲言,卢江那么说自然有他的道理。Yun Jingcomplexiontranquilsay/way: „HopehearsQixiang”云景面色平静道:“愿闻其详”Thinks,Lu Jiangsaid: „Ifromthreeaspectselaborated why Ithink the waris disadvantageoustomyGreat Li, ifthere is an incorrectplace, towardpoints out mistakestome”
想了想,卢江说:“我从三个方面阐述一下为何我个人认为战局对我大离不利,若有不对的地方,往诸位给我指正”„Itsone, from the overallwar, the warhas been actually disadvantageoustomyGreat Li, as we all know, thiscontinuesmanyyears of war, the causeis cruelly harmedto causebyGreat River Dynastybecause ofMasterChen, the masterareour generationscholar'sbelief, thisenmitycannot do withoutreporting, thereforemyGreat Lilaunchesthiswarnotwrong, the point is that weas the main actionside, actually the long timecannot capture, master'senmitycannotresult inreports, thisis very bigto the imposing mannerattack of officers, is manyyear of warbigconsumptionnational strength, thisisonehas tofacingreality, this. Isitsone”
“其一,从整体战局来看,其实战争一直就对我大离不利,大家都知道,这场持续多年的战争,起因是因为陈夫子被大江王朝残害而引起的,夫子是我辈读书人的信仰,此仇不可不报,所以我大离发动这场战争并没有错,可问题是,我们作为主战方,却久攻不下,夫子的仇至今都没能得报,这对将士们的气势打击很大,然后就是多年的战争大大的消耗国力,这是一个不得不面对的现实,这是其一”„Itstwo, weknow, starts at the beginning of the war, ourGreat Li Dynastyfacesbesieging of northernthreecountriessimultaneously, althoughmain battlefieldGreat River Dynasty, butMulberry Net Dynasty and gold/metalwolfdynastyare also noticeable, by an enemythree, the manpower and resources that theseyearsconsumeare unable to imaginesimply, continueagain, could not needseveralyears, the war that likely thisrefused to compromisecanburn outourGreat Li Dynasty, once the national strengthcould not follow, at the appointed time the northernthree countrieswent southin one vigorous efforton a large scale, the consequenceis unable to imagine!”
“其二,我们都知道,从战争开始之初,我们大离王朝就同时面对北方三个国家的围攻,虽然主战场在大江王朝这边,但桑罗王朝和金狼王朝也不可忽视,以一敌三啊,这些年来消耗的人力物力简直无法想象,再继续下去,要不了几年,很可能这僵持不下的战争就能把我们大离王朝拖垮,一旦国力跟不上,到时北方三国一鼓作气大举南下,后果无法想象!”„Itsthree, were the highest-endstrengths, althoughweunderstand, the armywasleads the warsituation the key, but the high-endstrengthmightreverseexistence of warat one stoke, based onthis, whatImustsay, ourGreat Li Dynasty, initiallyfourmasterstime, but can also maintain the borderto be balanced, butMasterChenhave fallen from the sky for manyyears, not newmasterappeared, thismadeus the high-endstrengthbe short ofone, Isaid the eventuality, if the norththree countrieswere not concerned about facesent out the mythboundarypowerhouseto act, ushad no wayto send outto existto dealcorrespondingly, the consequenceyoucan. Thinks?”
“其三,就是最高端战力了,虽然我们都明白,军队才是主导战争大势的关键,可高端战力却是有可能一举扭转战局的存在,基于这点,我要说的是,我们大离王朝,当初有四位夫子的时候,还能维持边境平衡,可陈夫子已经陨落多年,并无新的夫子出现,这使得我们这边的高端战力少了一位,我说万一,万一北方三国不要脸的派出神话境强者出手,我们这边没法派出相应存在应对,后果你们能想到吗?”„Fromthesethreepoints, the overallwar is disadvantageoustomyGreat Li Dynasty, moreoveris the bigdisadvantage, Icanseethesethreepoints, the northernthree countriesmustknow that theseadvantages, theyhave not gone southat one fell swoop, Iguess that theyshouldwantto consumemyGreat Li Dynastynational strengthwith the war, whengoes southto the timematurelyin one vigorous effort, suchcanobtain the brilliant achievementat the minimumprice”
“从这三点来看,整体战局是对我大离王朝不利的,而且是大大的不利,我都能看到这三点,北方三国不可能不知道这几个优势,他们之所以还未一举南下,我猜他们应该是想用战争消耗我大离王朝国力,待到时机成熟一鼓作气南下,那样就能以最小的代价取得辉煌战果了”„Imustsayisthese, whateveryonehasto supplement? Ifthought that Iwas wrong, pleaseput outpracticalreason”
“我要说的就是这些,大家有什么补充的吗?如果觉得我说得不对,请拿出切实的理由”Lu Jiangspoke with confidence, saidownanalysis, thenlookedtoYun Jingthey.卢江侃侃而谈,把自己的分析说了出来,然后看向云景他们。
His analysisis not groundless, after listening, Zhou Yuand the otherscomplexionsis unattractive, the browtightwrinkleanalyzesthese that he said that wants the place of rebuttal.
他这一通分析不无道理,听完后周玉等人一个个脸色都不好看,眉头紧皱分析他说的这些,想要出反驳之处。Tells the truth, on the scene, althoughis the scholar, but the informed sourceschannelisverydeficient, saysbased on the information that oneselfhave, in factsaidagain many are not bigto the truesituationrelations.
有一说一,在场的虽然是读书人,但消息来源渠道还是很匮乏的,所说的都是基于自己掌握的信息,实际上说得再多对真正的局势关系不大。However the discussion, spoke freelywell, towrongimmaterial, somepeoplewill not laugh.
然而探讨嘛,畅所欲言就好,对错无关紧要,也不会有人笑话。Zhang Fuluhesitates saying: „I, althoughdoes not wantto acknowledge, butalsohas saying that the waris really disadvantageoustomyGreat Li, saidthese that based on the Rwandanbrother, Iadd a pointagain, is the secondpoint that hesaid”张福禄沉吟道:“我虽然很不想承认,但也不得不说,战局真对我大离不利,基于卢兄说的这些,我再补充一点,就是他说的第二点”„In my opinion, the northernthree countriesare notgrasshopper on a rope, particularly the gold/metalwolfdynastyandMulberry Net Dynasty, theyare present at workdo not strive, for the purpose ofconstrainingmyGreat Lipart of energy, whatperhapsthinksisourGreat Li and great riveris mutually wounded, thentheyquitepick up a bargain, otherwise, if the northernthree countrieswhole-heartedly, perhapshave really gone southon a large scale”
“在我看来,北方三国也并非一条绳上的蚂蚱,尤其是金狼王朝和桑罗王朝,他们可谓出工不出力,旨在拖住我大离一部分精力,恐怕想的是我们大离和大江两败俱伤,然后他们好捡便宜,否则的话,若北方三国真全力以赴,恐怕早已大举南下了”„Then, whatI must say, the presentsituationalsorefuses to compromise, oncemyGreat Lipresents the advantage that sometypemakesthemdread, at that time the northernthree countriesfor the self-interest, will join upabsolutelytruly!”
“然后,我还要说的是,眼下的局势还只是僵持罢了,一旦我大离这边出现某种让他们忌惮的优势,那时北方三国为了自身利益,绝对会真正联合起来的!”„I said that alsothought that the warwas disadvantageoustous, whateveryonehad to supplement?”
“我说完了,也觉得战局对我们不利,大家有什么要补充的吗?”Thepoint that Zhang Fuluaddsis not groundless.张福禄补充的这点也不无道理。
The fact is also, although the northernthree countries the national strengthis different, butsinglecountryalsonotcompared withGreat Lidifferencemany, particularlygold/metalwolfdynasty, even the national strengthalsobe stronger than Great Li, iftheirthreecountriesreallydo not count the priceto join upto go south, perhapsGreat Lireallycannot withstand.
事实也是,北方三国虽然国力不同,但单个国家也并不比大离这边差多少,尤其是金狼王朝,甚至国力还要比大离更强,如果他们三个国家真的不计代价联合起来南下,大离这边恐怕真的顶不住。Reason that the warcandragnow, becausetheirthree countrieshave not joined uptruly.
之所以战争能拖到现在,还是因为他们三国并没有真正联合起来。Fang Jieproposedat this time the different opinions, said: „IandLubrotherstretch/openbrother'sviewis different, Ifeltsituationyouhave not saidis so bad, youfirstlistened tometo say......”方杰此时提出了不同意见,道:“我和卢兄张兄的看法不同,我觉得局势并没有你们说的那么糟糕,你们先听我说……”„WhyIsaid that the waris not bad, the reasonalsothreepoints, itsone, seems like that the northernthree countrieswantto burn outmyGreat Litaking advantage of the war, butmyGreat Liis not easyto burn out, how manyyears ago the appearance of farm manure do youknow? The grain production, considerablyincreasedmyGreat Linational strength, has the grain, the officershave the foodto eat, cantrain the soldierto rush to the border passcontinuously, by the consumption, myGreat Lidoes not fearat present, naturally, the warand is not only only the food consumption, butthere is a grain is actually veryessential”
“为什么我说战局没那么糟糕呢,理由也有三点,其一,看似北方三国想借战争拖垮我大离,但我大离可不是那么容易拖垮的,几年前农家肥的出现你们知道吧?粮食增产,大大增加了我大离国力,有粮食,将士们就有饭吃,就能源源不断的培养士兵奔赴边关,论消耗,我大离目前并不惧,当然,战争并不仅仅只是粮食消耗,但有粮食却是很关键的”„Itstwo, Lubrotherstretch/open the brotheronlysaw the northernthree countrieswantto burn outmyGreat Li, actuallyneglected a point, in recent years, the northernthree-countryhomesare not peaceful, theirhow manycountriesalmostmakevariousdisastersyear after year, do thisyou have hearing? Theysuffer a calamity, whichtype does the disaster reliefrelief disasternot to needmassivemanpower and resources? ButmyGreat Ligood crop weathergrain production, is actually in inverse proportion, perhapsthis is also reason that the northernthree countrieshave not gone southon a large scale”
“其二,卢兄张兄只看到了北方三国想要拖垮我大离,却忽略了一点,这些年来,北方三国国内并不太平,他们几个国家几乎年年闹各种灾害,这点你们也有耳闻吧?他们闹灾,救灾赈灾哪样不需要大量人力物力?而我大离却风调雨顺粮食增产,此消彼长啊,恐怕这也是北方三国迟迟没有大举南下的原因”„Thenwas the thirdpoint that Imustsay, wedid not favorourGreat Lihere, analyzedso manyunfavorable factors, butyouthought that billowingZhu in deliberation hallcouldn't seethese? Why is the warstill continuing? MyGreat Lihas taken advantagesurely, butwedo not know that otherwise, knows perfectly well the situationto be disadvantageous, perhaps the royal governmenthas found the wayto end the war, even ifcedes territory and pays indemnities, alwaysfeels betterfacing the anger of northernthreecountries!”
“然后就是我要说的第三点了,我们大家在这里不看好我们大离,分析出这么多不利因素,可你们觉得朝堂上的滚滚诸公就看不到这些吗?为何战争还在继续?我大离必定有所依仗,只是我们不知道罢了,否则的话,明知局势不利,朝廷恐怕早就想办法结束战争了,哪怕割地赔款,也总好过面对北方三个国家的怒火!”„Ok, Imustrefuteonthesethreepoints, whoapprovedwhoopposed?”
“好了,我要反驳的就这三点,谁赞成谁反对?”Then, Fang Jielookstoeveryone.
说完,方杰看向各位。Zhou Yuthinks saying: „Yourboth sidessaidrational, Ialsoexpressmyview”周玉想了想说:“你们双方都说得有理,我也发表一下我的看法吧”„WhatImustsay, why not do ourthoughtsjump out of the presentwar? Ithink, the warprojects on the present, what is the reason? The reasonisMasterChenfalls from the sky, whenourattentioncentralizedinwar, so long asin factmyGreat LicanrevengetoMasterChen, thistimecontinuesmanyyears of war, even ifourGreat Lisuccessfullyserved the purpose!”
“我要说的是,我们的思维何不跳出眼下的战局?我是这么想的,战争打到现在,原因是什么?原因是陈夫子陨落,当我们的注意力都集中在战局上的时候,实际上只要我大离能给陈夫子报仇,这次持续多年的战争,我们大离就算胜利达到目的了!”Hiss~!
嘶~!Listened toZhou Yu saying that Lu Jiangtheyattracted an cold air/Qisubconsciously.
听周玉这么说,卢江他们下意识吸了一口冷气。Thought ofsomepossibility!
都想到了某种可能性!Is prone making exaggerated , sensationalistic statements, hejumped out of the limitation of thoughtto focus onthirdunexpectedly.
语不惊人死不休啊,他居然跳出了思维的局限性着眼第三处。Yes, the original intention of wartogiveMasterChenrevenges, oncecanrevenge, the goalwas achieved, thison behalf ofsomewaraspect that Great Liis startingis the victory!
是啊,战争的初衷就是为了给陈夫子报仇,一旦能报仇,目的就达到了,这代表着大离发动的战争某方面来说是胜利的!Lu Jiangis pulling out the cold air/Qisinkingsound said: „Zhoubrothermeant,ourGreat Li, in factalsoinwantsto manage a faradenemymythboundaryto be buried along with the deadforMasterChenin recent years?”卢江抽着冷气沉声道:“周兄的意思是说,我们大离这边,这些年来,实际上也在想办法拉一位敌国神话境为陈夫子陪葬?”„Imaynot have saying that but the matter on royal government, whoknows”, Zhou Yushakes the headto say.
“我可没这么说,但朝廷上的事情,谁知道呢”,周玉摇摇头道。Thistopicsomeextremelyshock everybody, isdiscretegood.
这个话题有些太过惊世骇俗,还是谨慎些的好。Theyverytactfulno longercontinuesthis, Zhang Fuluactuallyknits the brows: „But the issueemergedas the matter stands, even ifourGreat Li, just likeZhou the brothersaid did that, serves the purpose, but the presentwar is actually the fact, howto settle? Moreover, ifreallyserved the purpose, the northernthree countrieshave't canbe insane? Thatexisted, but the supporting-heaven pillar of country, ourherelostonenot to hesitateto launch the war, iftheyfell from the sky, but also can not retaliatecrazily, in that case, the warwill certainlybe more frigid!”
他们都很识趣的不再继续这点,张福禄却皱眉道:“可这样一来问题又出现了,即使我们大离这边正如周兄所说的那样做,达到目的了,可眼下的战争却是事实啊,如何善后?而且,若真达到目的了,北方三国还不得疯?那等存在可是国之擎天柱,我们这边失去一位都不惜发动战争了,若他们陨落一位,还不得疯狂报复,那样一来,战争必将更加惨烈!”Zhou Yu is actually narrows the eye saying: „stretch/openbrothersaidis not groundless, but if my doesn't Great Liprepareonlyto drawthatexistenceto be buried along with the deadtoMasterChen? Ifmany pullshow many, at that timenorthernthree-countryalsonotscareds out of one's wits? Whatcourage do they have to go south?”周玉却是眯眼道:“张兄说得不无道理,可要是我大离不准备只拉一位那种存在给陈夫子陪葬呢?若是多拉几个,那时北方三国还不吓破胆?他们还有什么勇气南下?”„This......!”
“这……!”
The peopleshow the panic-strickenexpression, does not know how to refute.
众人露出惊骇表情,不知道如何反驳。Yes, ifGreat Lihereone-offRadowenemymythboundaryis buried along with the deadtoMasterChen, when the time comes the northernthreeNational Securitydareto go south!
是啊,若是大离这边一次性拉多个敌国神话境的给陈夫子陪葬,到时候北方三国安敢南下!The point is that Great Lisuchwill really do?
可问题是,大离这边真的会那样做吗?Canachieve?
能做到吗?Zhou Yusaid with a smilesuddenly: „Goodgood, wewere an armchair strategist, howwhoknewspecifically”周玉突然笑道:“好啦好啦,我们只是纸上谈兵说说而已,具体怎么样谁知道呢”„Alsoyes, whatno matter the situationevolves, to the entiregeneral situation, we was too insignificant , can only discusshere”, the Fang Jieforced smilesaid.
“也是,不管局势演变成什么样,对整个大局而言,我们都太微不足道了,也只能在这里探讨一下而已”,方杰苦笑道。At this timeZhou Yulooked that saidtoYun Jing: „Right, was the Brother Yunyounger brotherraisesaboutborder passwarissue, whatviewregarding this did youhave?”
此时周玉看向云景道:“对了,关于边关战局这个问题是云兄弟提出来的,对此你有什么看法?”You who the Yun Jingsecretly thoughtshouldsay said that I have anythingto say.云景暗道该说的你们都说完啦,我还有什么好说的。Listened totheirtheseanalyses, Yun Jing to acknowledge,theirseveralpeoplehad the original idea, onlydepending ongrasping the shallowinformationanalyzedso many, even ifnoeggused.
听了他们这些分析,云景不得不承认,他们几人还是有自己独特见解的,仅凭掌握的粗浅信息就分析出了这么多,哪怕没什么卵用。Zhou YumakesYun Jingexpress the view, theysaidsimilarly, what did Yun Jingadd?周玉让云景发表看法,他们都说得差不多了,云景还说啥?Even ifthere is saying that some thingsIcannotsayhere, mustresult inrottenlyin the belly, howotherwiseoneselfdieddoes not know.
即使有说的,那些些东西我也不能在这里说啊,必须得烂在肚子里的,否则自己怎么死的都不知道。However, just likeZhou Yusaid,thistopicisheraises, does not express the viewnot to be justified.
不过吧,正如周玉所说,这个话题是他提出来的,不发表一下看法说不过去。What should oneselfsay?
那自己该说点啥?
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