„I not because the same tool displays the function that he should display, but to him has any grateful, he is only a tool.” “我不会因为一样工具发挥了他本身就应该发挥的功用而对他有任何的感激的,他只是一个工具而已。” Facing Ariane Kouhia's question, the boss restated his viewpoint. Naturally, he also knows that said is actually inappropriate, particularly stands above the standpoint of human, many have a little ungrateful suspicion. Therefore he is also immediately lifted own another set of theory, was disputing to Ariane Kouhia. 面对阿莱克西亚的疑问,老板再次声明了他自己的观点。当然,他也知道这么说其实并不合适,尤其是站在人类的立场之上,多少有那么一点忘恩负义的嫌疑。所以他也是立马的就抬出了自己的另一套理论,这么对着阿莱克西亚辩驳了起来。 „It is not I do not know to feel grateful, Madame. But is you must know, what existence behind that fearful machine is. A computer? The computer that or had oneself thought that I really do not understand why the government has that big heart, dares to make such a fellow openly obtain now everyone's front. They do not know that what is called the threat?” “并不是我不知道感恩,女士。而是你要知道,那台可怕的机器背后到底是个什么样的存在。一台电脑？或者说一台有了自己思维的电脑,我真的不明白政府为什么有那么大的心,敢让这么一个家伙堂而皇之得出现在所有人的面前。他们难道就不知道什么叫做威胁吗？” „That is the intelligent life, Mister. Is the modern sci-tech the miracle that ferments to come out!” “那是智能生命,先生。是现代科技所酝酿出来的奇迹！” „I do not know that anything is called the miracle, I only know, when the atomic bomb comes out, people are also called the miracle it. But, he injury to our people on one's own side even must surpass now to our enemies!” “我不知道什么叫做奇迹,我只知道在原子弹出来的时候,人们也把它叫做奇迹。可现在呢,他对我们自己人的伤害甚至要超过对我们敌人的！” Raised the voice, as if does that can make him have the overwhelming in spoken language. The boss is continuing his private judgement. 加大了嗓门,似乎这么做就能让他更加的拥有言语上的压倒性。老板继续着他的一己之见。 „Has not completely solved including own issue, visit arbitrarily to being in Spiritual God domain. The result of doing this is, we will definitely make one unable to control exists. But has a look strength that fellow displays, is that the matter that the person can achieve? He also exceeds human in the study, exceeds his creator, wants to be on par with the Spiritual God. In he has led our stride under the premise, we who can guarantee, he will serve us as always, probably we serve the god to be the same. Rather than a foot kicks us, displaces us.” “连自己的问题都还没有彻底解决,就擅自的踏足到属于神灵的领域中。这样做的结果就是,我们必然会制造出一个无法掌控的存在来。而看看那家伙所展现出来的力量,那是人能够做到的事情吗？他在学习并且超越人类,超越他的造物主,想要和神灵比肩。而在他已经领先我们一大步的前提之下,我们有谁能够保证,他会一如既往的侍奉我们,像是我们侍奉神一样。而不是一脚就把我们踢掉,把我们取而代之。” This terrified idea does not stem from Ariane Kouhia expects, she is very clear, in the heads of most conservatives, perhaps is a similar idea. 这种惶恐的想法并不出乎阿莱克西亚的所料,她很清楚,在绝大多数保守人士的脑袋里,恐怕都是类似的一个想法。 There is nothing well strange. Because science thing regarding this person is always only a concept. They will never understand that on own initiative scientific limit, all regarding surpassing their cognition category thing will be rejected by them. Probably Ultron, perhaps their only impressions are more than 20 years ago that classical science fiction movies. But is separated from this point, making them make some fair appraisals to Ultron, perhaps is not a realistic matter. 这没有什么好奇怪的。因为科学这东西对于这种人从来都只是一种概念。他们从来不会主动去了解科学的极限,一切对于超出他们认知范畴的东西都会被他们所拒绝。像是奥创,恐怕他们唯一的印象就是二十多年前的那部经典科幻电影。而脱离出这一点,让他们对奥创做出一些公正的评价,恐怕都是一件不现实的事情。 Does not have Ariane Kouhia to expect, the boss soon starts to take the old stem to mention the matter. 不出阿莱克西亚所料,老板很快就开始拿老梗说起事来。 „I do not know that you have watched an old movie, does not have many impressions by your grade estimate. If you have looked at that you will have known about my approach. Actually because that has revealed the computer that was aloof us to control to make what kind of matter. He will control all in this world, then in a planned way is annihilating all human, makes the thing that he creates replace us by attempt, becomes control in this world. Do not believe that the young people, all development are similar.” “我不知道你有没有看过一部老电影,以你的年级估计是没有多少印象的。如果你看过那个,你就会对我的做法有所了解。因为那已经揭示了一个超脱出我们掌控的电脑究竟会做出怎么样的事情来。他会控制这个世界上的一切,然后有计划的歼灭着所有的人类,以试图让他创造出来的事物取代我们,成为这个世界的主宰者。别不相信,年轻人,一切的发展都是类似的。” „First lets these great people complacent robots, they think that this is their achievement, who knows that this is the plot of that computer. Then is to make these robots replace our police and armies, is good to eliminate all our opposition forces. Perhaps to finally, is he stands in the television directly, openly announced that he to our rules, and human becomes the facts of their slave. If all these happen tomorrow, I am not strange.” “先是让那些大人物们洋洋得意的机器人,他们以为这是他们的成就,但是谁知道这是不是那个电脑的阴谋。然后是让这些机器人取代我们的警察、军队,好剥夺我们所有的反抗力量。到最后,也许就是他直接站在电视里面,堂而皇之的宣布他对我们所有人的统治,以及人类成为他们奴隶的事实。如果这一切就发生在明天,我是一点都不奇怪。” „That is only a movie, Mister. The reality will not seem like such development in movie, particularly that development and has no logic.” “那只是个电影,先生。现实不会像是电影里的那样发展,尤其是那种发展并没有什么逻辑可言。” Ariane Kouhia makes the rebuttal appropriately, but this rebuttal actually stimulated the nerve of boss to be the same probably, making him foam with rage immediately. 阿莱克西亚适当的做出反驳,而这种反驳却像是刺激到了老板的神经一样,让他当即吹胡子瞪眼起来。 „What is called not to have the logic. The movie does not certainly have the logic? Your these highly educated people are like thinking oneself infallible. I told you, my has experienced a lot for a lifetime, but these things in your opinion, in movie was the same.” “什么叫做没有逻辑。电影就一定是没有逻辑的吗？你们这些受过高等教育的人就是喜欢自以为是。我告诉你,我这一辈子经历过很多事情,而这些事情在你们看来,就和电影里发生的一样。” „How many people do you see to depend on four spears/guns to pursue opposite dozens individual dozens? You see some people to take a beverage bottle, can fire the scrap iron a tank? No, you have not seen, only according to your laughable scientific logic pondered, you will not believe all these, and is regarded as the delusion all these. However, this happened at my present matter, is I have personally experienced, how can these you say?” “你们见过几个人就靠着四把枪就能追着对面几十个人打吗？你见过有人拿着一个酒瓶,就能把一辆坦克烧成废铁吗？不,你们没有见过,只按照你们那可笑的科学逻辑来思考,你们根本不会相信这一切,并且把这一切都认作是妄想。但是,这都是发生在我眼前的事情,是我所亲身经历过的,这些你们能怎么说？” When seems like young receives some unfair treatment, mentioned the issue of science and logic, this boss on some meanings of using something as a pretext. Naturally, his using something as a pretext has not disturbed Ariane Kouhia's judgment, she can recognize clearly, in idle talk that he spoke that somewhat a little changes the concept the suspicion. 似乎是年轻时受过一些不公正的待遇,一说起科学和逻辑的问题,这个老板就有些借题发挥的意思。当然,他的借题发挥并没有干扰到阿莱克西亚的判断,她很清楚就能辨识出,他所说的废话中那多多少少有一点的偷换概念的嫌疑。 This is shows off meager skills before an expert. Many people think carries out the scientific research is simple-hearted on certain brain, clumsily in spoken language. Actually this is the pure prejudice, is these mind chicken soup -type God closes consoling oneself of windowing to you. The science is the knowledge of most tasteful logic, but the foundation that said a word was also the logic. You counted on that one crowd can levels with the formula and computation complex in the language will lose to you to existence of difficult problem your symbol cannot understand logically, this does not want compared with the disabled person with the world champions compared with easy that the high jump long jump comes. 这是班门弄斧。很多人以为搞科研的就一定脑子木讷,拙于言语。其实这是单纯的偏见,是那些心灵鸡汤式的上帝给你关门开窗的自我安慰。要知道,科学是最讲究逻辑的一门学问,而言语的基础也是逻辑。你指望一群能用公式和计算摆平一个个复杂到你连一个符号都看不懂的难题的存在会在语言逻辑上输给你,这并不比残疾人想要和世界冠军比跳高跳远来的容易。 They display the simple-hearted and bad spoken language most of the time, but pure does not like exchanging with the average person. For example is the average person does not like being same as the mental handicap exchange, in their eyes, it is estimated that average person with mental handicap almost. But must say that removed this prejudice, gives them again a fearless temperament, then basically, any specialized scientist can the incarnation be Tony Stark, did not know the biological mothers the resentment to you momentarily. 他们大多时候表现得木讷和不善言语,只是单纯的不喜欢和普通人交流而已。就好比说是普通人不喜欢和智障交流一样,在他们眼中,估计普通人就和智障差不多。而要说去掉了这种偏见,再给他们一个天不怕地不怕的脾气,那么基本上来说,任何一个专业的科学家都能化身为托尼.史塔克,随时怼到你连亲妈都不认识。 Ariane Kouhia as one, can certainly detect his logic the loophole and joke. But is in itself she who wants to find out by secret inquiry these people's desires charts, naturally is impossible to seem like average person such to smile, saves face to this boss. She is finds fault. Also therefore, she was also exhibiting an arrogant but not arrogant attitude unrestrained/no trace of politeness, is just like you to sit the student under stage, but she stands the teacher on stage is the same, is saying to the boss. 阿莱克西亚作为其中的一员,当然是能察觉到他这番逻辑的漏洞和可笑之处。而本身就是想要探知这些人意图的她,当然不可能像是一般人那样对此一笑而过,给这个老板留足面子。她就是来挑刺的。也正因此,她也是毫不客气的摆出了一副盛气但不凌人的态度,就好比你是坐在台下的学生,而她是站在台上的老师一样,这么对着老板说道起来。 „Mister, I do not understand that you encountered anything, makes you have such prejudice to the science. However I must tell you am, you cannot because of the little your bitter experience, to conduct overall on denial scientifically. This division/discipline will become the foundation of entire human society , because it had did not have truth that may subvert. But places on these robots that Ultron and he creates, is these things that you are worried about, simply does not have the logic to take the support.” “先生,我不明白你到底遭遇了什么,才让你对科学有这样的偏见。但是我要告诉你的是,你不能因为一点点自身的遭遇,就对科学进行全盘上的否认。这门学科之所以会成为整个人类社会的根基,就是因为它具备了无可颠覆的道理。而放在奥创及他所创造出来的那些机器人上,就是你所担心的那些事情,根本没有逻辑来作为支撑。” „If treats as a species to come to see Ultron and these wisdom weapons, their needs the ecological environment not to happen together with human. The movie bases on the species competition the principle to consider that relations between two, this is actually not correct. Because of fundamentally, the two does not have the competitive relations.” “如果把奥创和那些智械当做一个物种来看的话,他们的所需要生态环境根本就和人类没有交集。电影是基于物种竞争的法则来考虑二者之间的关系的,这其实是不正确的。因为从根本上,二者就不存在竞争性的关系。” All natural materials that „human needs, the air, water and food, and even all social materials, money and entertainment are not the consumables that the machine life must. They do not have to need, even said that they are the manufacturers of these materials rather than are consumption. Except for energy, but energy, in human has developed nearly infinite fusion energy under the premise, is impossible to have that type by the energy as the possibility of conflict.” “人类所需要的一切自然物质,空气、水、食物,乃至一切的社会物质,金钱、娱乐都不是机器生命所必需的消耗品。他们对此一无所需,甚至说他们是这些物质的制造者而非是消耗者。除了能源,而能源,在人类已经开发出近乎无限的核聚变能源的前提之下,根本就不可能存在那种以能源作为矛盾冲突的可能。” „Human, even if killed one another to cause demise of race, still be been bigger than by the possibility that Ultron such intelligence life perished. Because human many also has the contradiction on survival and race exists, what kind of one degree these contradictory cataclysms will ferment to not to feel strange. However the machine, the machine and we are contradictory are impossible to exist, how also possibly becomes destroys the prime culprit who?” “人类就算是自相残杀导致了种族的灭亡,也要比被奥创这样的智能生命灭亡的可能性更大。因为人类多少还有生存以及种族上的矛盾存在,这些矛盾激变酝酿到怎么样的一种程度都不会奇怪。但是机器,机器和我们连矛盾都不可能存在,又怎么可能成为毁灭我们的元凶呢？” „This is only your private judgement, Madame.” “这只是你的一己之见,女士。” Standing is reliable in such an expression, in front of view that does not allow to refute, Boss felt in own past these brought to boast the spoken language that complained really did not have what antagonism. However must make him acknowledge the opposite party said and arrives at the truth, own idea is only one has groundless fears, that actually is also the impossible matter. 站在这样一个言辞凿凿,根本不容反驳的说法面前,老板感觉自己往日里那些拿来吹嘘吐槽的言语实在是不具备什么对抗性。但是要让他就此承认对方说的又到道理,自己的想法只是一个杞人忧天,那却也是不可能的事情。 This not only subverted his opinion, subverted his life. His half a lifetime is to depend on the attitude of this question science, if this makes him the fan of science, that did not compare to kill him to come was more relaxed. 这不仅仅是颠覆了他的言论,更是颠覆了他的一生。要知道,他这半辈子都是靠着这种质疑科学的态度挺过来的,这要是让他成为科学的拥趸,那不比杀了他来的更轻松一些。 He is not certainly willing to submit, but in order to insisted that own standpoint, he is also can the utmost put out itself to be able to think of the instance that disputes this viewpoint. 他当然不肯屈从,而为了能够坚持自己的立场,他也是极尽所能的拿出了自己所有能想到的事例,来辩驳起这种观点来。 „You said that human and machine do not have the contradiction, because why so many workers the factory will use the machine to lose works, will become can only in the unemployed who on the street will loaf?” “你说人类和机器没有矛盾,那为什么有那么多的工人会因为工厂采用了机器而失去工作,成为只能在街上游荡的失业者？” „You made a mistake the object, Mister. This is not person and the contradiction of machine, this is the contradiction of worker and capitalist. In capitalist opinion, the demand of worker is higher than the demand of machine, output of worker is lower than output of machine, they will certainly choose the machine. Even if you sit in that position, you will still choose. Because this is the optimization, is the benefit is biggest. The machine played a utilizable role in the middle, it may not have initiative and you competes for anything, but was the you and capitalist contradictions between makes them choose.” “你搞错了对象,先生。这不是人和机器的矛盾,这是工人和资本家的矛盾。在资本家看来,工人的需求高于机器的需求,工人的产出低于机器的产出,他们当然会选择机器。就算是你坐在那个位置上,你也会这么选择。因为这是最优化的,也是利益最大的。机器在中间只是充当了一个工具性角色,它可没有主动和你们争夺什么,而是你们和资本家之间的矛盾让他们做出了取舍而已。” „Society always develops. Looking like the wool worker will be replaced to be the same by the textile machine initially. The production method of high level is doomed to make few people be unemployed, but, this will also provide extra partial employment opportunity simultaneously. Looked that you can seize the opportunity.” “社会从来都是这么发展的。就像是当初羊毛工人会被纺织机器取代一样。更高级的生产方式注定会让一部分人失业,但是同时的,这也会提供额外的一部分就业机会。就看你能不能抓住机会而已。” „In the final analysis, our work by these machines not seizing?” “可是说到底,我们的工作不还是被那些机器给抢占了吗？” This lengthy speech boss has listened more than once, but, he chose as usual disregarded these straightforward truth, but stubbornly grasped the contradictory core not to put. 这种长篇大论老板听过不止一次,而也和以往一样的,他选择了无视那些直白的道理,而死死的抓住矛盾的核心不放。 „I, no matter what social development does not develop. I only know that has one crowd to have the man of work, because these machines were out of work, their children are having an empty stomach, their wives are wiping tears. They have a strength and skill spatially simply do not have the place to use, why this is I do not like the reason of machine.” “我不管什么社会发展不发展的。我只知道有一群本该有着工作的男人因为那些机器失去了工作,他们的孩子在饿肚子,他们的老婆在抹眼泪。他们空有一身力气和技能却根本没有地方使用,这就是我为什么不喜欢机器的原因。” „The words that you spoke I understand probably your meaning, you are think that being in vogue of machine will cause the human the unemployment rate to increase, thus in disguised form causes a series of social concerns, right?” “你这么说的话我大概明白你的意思了,你是认为机器的盛行会导致人类的失业率增加,从而变相的导致一系列的社会问题,对吗？” I think? The boss some veiled Quan, he dares to pledge in the name of own dead father suddenly, he has not really thought so many, however before Ariane Kouhia's such woman, he also was really said embarrassed oneself thought was superficial. Therefore he also can only brace oneself, the nod said. 我是这么想的吗？老板一时间有些蒙圈,他敢以自己死去老爹的名义发誓,他真的没有想那么多,但是在阿莱克西亚这样的女人面前,他也实在是不好意思说自己想的浅薄了。所以他也只能硬着头皮,点头道。 „Right, I could not accept such matter. Why must let our these average people, for the so-called social development pays, but can the social development establish above the sacrifices of our average person?” “没错,我就是接受不了这样的事情。凭什么要让我们这些普通人为了所谓的社会发展来买单,但是社会发展就一定是要建立在我们普通人的牺牲之上吗？” „Good, if you said that then makes a choice, Mister.” “好吧,如果你这么说的话,那么做一个选择吧,先生。” This issue Ariane Kouhia shows neither approval nor disapproval. She is only thread of conversation one revolution, said. 这个问题阿莱克西亚不置可否。她只是话锋一转的,就这么说道起来。 „Two choices , you are first willing to make a working class, works in the factory for a lifetime, the material obtained can only satisfy the warm and sufficient condition of family, making you provide for the child to finish attending the communiversity reluctantly, then makes him take over your duty , to continue to be a worker? To change a way, why namely that type wants to do, what no matter is engaged in working can obtain not the poor wage, simultaneously the social welfare can also achieve that type to make you not work, can on the easy and comfortable comfortable, had everything expected to find life?” “两个选择,第一,你是愿意做一个工人阶级,一辈子都在工厂里做工,所得到的物质只能满足一家老小的温饱,让你勉强供养孩子上完社区大学,然后再让他来接你的班,继续当一个工人呢？还是想要换一种方式,即那种想干什么就干什么,不管从事什么工作都能得到不菲的薪水,同时社会福利也能达到那种让你连不工作都可以,就能过上安逸舒适,应有尽有的生活呢？” „Is this impossible?” “这不可能？” One hear of this saying, the boss shakes the head. European treatment/salary is on Earth best. However in them is even best, was impossible saying that could haunch such benefits. This was not the reality, had a dream simply. 一听这话,老板就直摇头。欧洲这边的福利待遇已经算是地球上最好的了。但是即便是他们中最好的,也不可能说支撑得起这样的福利。这都不是现实了,简直就是做梦。 „I meant, if!” “我是说,如果！” „I will certainly choose second, I am not a fool.” “那我当然会选择第二个,我又不是傻瓜。” No matter what race, the demand is the same. Can stand, who wants to kneel money-making, can lie down, who wants to work? Under the reality, be forced. But regarding almost all normal people, they want to cross is that anything does not do can satisfy the life that the life needs. This is impossible. 不管是什么样的人种,诉求都是一样的。即能站着,谁想跪着赚钱,能躺着,谁又会去想工作呢？都是迫于现实,迫于无奈。而对于几乎所有正常的人来说,他们都想要过得就是那种什么都不做就可以满足生活所需的生活。只是,这不可能而已。 Naturally, this type impossible is not certainly impossible, at least in Ariane Kouhia's viewpoint is not. 当然,这种不可能并不是一定不可能,最起码在阿莱克西亚的观点里就不是。 „If you really must choose the second type, then you should not reject Ultron such machine. Because you are clear, their appearances mean jump of productive forces, only then the productive forces leapt forward to certain level, can have that second possibility that I described.” “如果你真的要选择第二种的话,那么你就更加不应该拒绝奥创这样的机器。因为你要清楚,他们的出现意味着生产力的跃进,而只有生产力跃进到一定层次了,才能出现我所描绘的那第二种可能。” „Machine does not have the demand, all that they create make the supplies for human. After the material when one day, they create surpassed the overall demand of human society, that day that then I described will become the reality. But on this day is remote? With the development vision of modern sci-tech, is actually not remote, so long as no one makes the hindrance.” “机器没有需求,他们所创造出来的一切都是为人类做供给的。而当有一天,他们所创造出来的物质超过了人类社会的整体需求之后,那么我所描绘的那一天就会成为现实。而这一天遥远吗？以现代科技的发展眼光来看,其实并不遥远,只要没有人做出阻碍。” She is saying, starts to gaze at the look of boss. But was expected that with her, the boss also showed an expression of one's heart rushes toward one's destination suddenly. However quick, he shakes the head, and must adhere stubbornly to own opinions again. 她这么说着,就开始注视起老板的神色。而和她预料中的一样,老板也是一时间露出了一种心驰神往的表情。不过很快的,他就摇了摇头,并且再次得固执己见了起来。 „Sorry, I do not believe. Who I do not think in this world to be able such good intention. In addition human so, let alone is not a machine. Makes me believe with it he does when all for such a goal, I rather believe that in movie, all that he makes is a plot.” “抱歉,我还是不相信。我不认为这个世界上有谁能那么的好心。人类尚且不会如此,更何况是一个机器。与其让我相信他所做的一切时为了这样的一个目的,我宁愿相信电影里的那种,他所做的一切都是个阴谋。” „Yes, this should be a plot. Perhaps these governments, they had been controlled. Otherwise, how they can such indulging. Damn, one crowd of dog deng thing” “是的,这本该就是个阴谋。那些政府,说不定他们都已经被控制了。不然的话,他们怎么能如此的放纵。该死的,一群狗屎玩意” Fishes out the beverage bottle from the counter, to oneself but actually full one glass of strong liquor, the boss tossed down at the same time, started with who listened not clearly twittering to end such words. 从柜台下摸出酒瓶,给自己倒了满满一杯烈酒,老板一饮而尽的同时,也开始用一些谁也听不清楚的呢喃结束了这样的话语。 But this means the end of topic, but Ariane Kouhia gets the answer that oneself wanted. 而这意味着话题的终结,但是阿莱克西亚已经得到了自己想要的答案。 She had seen clearly, human that laughable natural disposition 她已经看清楚了,人类那可笑的本性 :.: :。: