MSG :: Volume #21

#2024: The magic trick is in sharp opposition


How a true intelligent living thing pondered that he can distinguish. 一个真正的智慧生物是怎么思考的,他还是能够辨别出来的。 Was similar to the artificial intelligence was just prosperous to get angry the Turing test in a complete mess to be the same, the Turing test itself said in the situation in completely not knowing the circumstances of the matter, let many groups of human and same machines inquires, if over 30% testers cannot affirm that the opposite party was the machine or the person, then this machine was considered that had the artificial intelligence. 正如同在人工智能刚刚兴盛起来火得一塌糊涂的图灵测试一样,图灵测试本身说的就是在完全不知情的情况下,让多组人类和同一个机器进行提问,如果有超过30的测试者不能肯定对方是机器或者人的话,那么这个机器就被认为具备了人工智能。 To be honest, way some of this test are not quite rigorous, if has artificial intelligence in the true sense, you not necessarily distinguish came out they really this test, was not willing through this test. However no matter what, mentality of this test is right. 说实话,这个测试的方式有些不太严谨,因为如果真的有真正意义上的人工智能的话,你未必分辨的出来它们是真的过不了这个测试,还是不愿意通过这个测试。不过不管怎么说,这个测试的思路还是对的。 Victor can look from their dialogues, Ultron had the artificial intelligence, moreover the intelligent level is not low. This level is not that simple any young child intelligence and so on level, but is equal to a values world outlook already the level of mature adult. In other words, complete self- existence. But has, this regarding Victor will not be any good news. 维克托就能从他们的对话中看出来,奥创真的具备了人工智能,而且智能水平还不低。这种水平不是那种简简单单的什么几岁小孩智力之类的水平,而是等同于一个价值观世界观都已经成熟的成年人的水平。换言之,一个完全自我的存在。而拥有自我,这对于维克托来说可不会是什么好消息。 He also wants to convince the present machine with oneself glib tongue. Even if cannot make him transfer throws the camp, is most minimum, must keep him from stopping own motion. 他本来还想用自己的三寸不烂之舌说服一下眼前的这个机器.就算是不能让他转投阵营,最起码的,也要让他无法阻拦自己的行动。 This is not any impossible matter. For example you trap small luoli to look at the goldfish to be the same with a candy cane, if this small luoli mental low young, is unable to distinguish including the quality, the success ratio of then such making is very big. But if, trades to make three views to be perfect the goal, and intelligence quotient entire journey online adult, the only fate that then such makes perhaps was seized and brought to the police station. 这并非是什么不可能的事情。就好比说你拿一根棒棒糖去诱骗小luoli看金鱼一样,如果说这个小luoli的心智低幼,连好坏都无法分辨的话,那么这么做的成功率还是挺大的。可是,如果把目标换作一个三观健全,并且智商全程在线的成年人的话,那么这么做的唯一下场恐怕就是被扭送到警察局里去。 The newborn artificial intelligence will not compare small luoli on good to be too many. However at present this obviously is not the artificial intelligence of any newborn rank, his high level, but this also means that he was cheated very much difficultly in a few words. Wants using spoken language sharp weapon definitely is invalid, but such being the case, Victor also can only be that is ready to resort to violence. 初生的人工智能并不会比小luoli好上太多。但是眼下这个显然并非是什么初生级别的人工智能,他更高级,而这也意味着他很难被三言两语所蒙骗。想要利用言语这个利器肯定是行不通的了,而既然如此,维克托也只能是做好动武的准备。 Has to inspire the body of gold/metal robot to resort to violence to such one is not the easy matter. Because inspires the gold/metal characteristics, because that type the atomic structure is exceptionally stable, causing the characteristics that all kinetic energies and energy impacts are unable to transmit to cause somewhat to be at a loss to him including Victor such hell monarchy. 对这样一个有着振金之躯的机器人动武可不是什么容易的事情。因为振金的特性,那种因为原子结构异常稳定,导致所有的动能和能量冲击都无法传递的特性使得连维克托这样的地狱君主都对他有些束手无策。 Bare-handed rips to inspire the gold/metal? Do not crack a joke. Must say that is Satan possibly also has such skill, but he, is transformed the fiendish person who comes by the human half-way? You ripped his him not to have such skill. If said that gives up the method of physical level, depends on the magic only, this actually is also not in an imagination that the easy matter. 徒手撕振金?别开玩笑了。要说是撒旦可能还有这样的本事,但是他,一个由人类半道转化而来的魔王?你就是撕了他他也没有这样的本事。而如果说放弃物理层面的手段,单靠魔法,这其实也并不是一件想象中那么容易的事情。 In the magic most methods are also to the control of energy. But the energy impact, was almost impossible how has inspired gold/metal that stubborn atomic structure. Therefore counted on that destroys to inspire the defense of gold/metal by general magic method, is very difficult. But regarding Victor, makes him exhaust the methods in all magics with it, comes up the breakthrough to inspire the defense of gold/metal in the upfront, he rather resorts to some circuitous methods. 魔法中绝大多数手段也不过是对能量的操控而已。而能量冲击,几乎不可能奈何得了振金那顽固的原子结构。所以指望靠一般的魔法手段来摧毁振金的防御,很难。而对于维克托来说,与其让他用尽一切魔法上的手段,在正面上去突破振金的防御,他宁愿去动用一些迂回的手段。 The so-called circuitous method, nothing but is some magic tricks secretly. If the opposite party is a human or other any vivid intelligent life, the method that then he can use really should not be too many. No matter the hypnosis attracts class magic arts, is any spiritual attack, even said that is cruel, pulls out the soul of opposite party directly, this regarding him is the simple effective solution. 所谓迂回的手段,无非就是一些暗地里的魔法伎俩而已。如果对方是一个人类或者其他什么有血有肉的智慧生灵,那么他能施展的手段真的不要太多。不管是催眠魅惑类的法术,还是什么精神上的攻击,甚至说再残忍一点的,直接拉出对方的灵魂,这对于他来说都是简单有效的解决之道。 But the issue is, the opposite party is not the common life, these means that he thinks are not necessarily able to play anything to affect regarding Ultron. 但问题是,对方并不是一般的生灵,他所想到的这些办法对于奥创未必能起到什么作用。 Does the hypnosis attract? This magic arts can only play the role to the brain of lifeform, but the wizard knows, the processor of artificial intelligence does accept organizing in this degree. As for the spiritual impact, the soul extraction, you determined that the artificial intelligence robot does have this thing? Perhaps is the inventor who lets this intelligence, he does not dare to hit any guarantee in writing. But places Victor's body, he naturally does not dare to speak any boast. 催眠魅惑?这种法术只能对生物的大脑起到作用,而鬼才知道,人工智能的处理器接不接受这种程度上的摆布。至于精神冲击,灵魂抽取,你确定人工智能机器人有这个玩意?恐怕就是让这个智能的创造者来说,他都不敢打什么包票。而放在维克托的身上,他自然就更加不敢说什么大话了。 Gives the devil his due, he has not laid aside the too high hope on such method. Possibility that because by his viewpoint, these methods will do several nearly in not having. Wastes more mental efforts with it in this aspect, might as well try other means. Naturally, this attempt always must try such one. 平心而论,他并没有在这样的手段上面放置太大的希望。因为以他的观点来看,这些手段能够行得通的可能几近于无。与其在这方面浪费更多的心力,不如多尝试一些其他的办法。当然,该尝试的总是还要尝试那么一下的。 Under the thought revolves rapidly, he has been making many petty actions in secret. But conceives with him such, his these petty actions have not played any role. Can control the will of the people, the look that controls the mind completely is the clay ox entering the sea, does not have the sign. But in the past can directly the evil Evil Demon method that soul tears, now is also the appearance that root hair has not pulled. 念头飞转之下,他已经是在私下里做了不少的小动作。而就和他设想中的那样,他的这些小动作并没有起到任何的作用。能操控人心,控制心灵的眼神完全就是泥牛入海,毫无迹象。而往日里能直接把生魂撕扯出来的邪恶魔法,现在也是一根毛都没有扯出来的样子。 This road walks obviously does not pass, since walks does not pass, then exchanges a mentality, tried other also means is inevitably and matter however. 这条路明显走不通,而既然走不通,那么换上一个思路,试试其他的办法也就是一件必然而然的事情了。 The magic are many to the choice that he provides, Victor has thought quickly of another means. But he who plans to delay the time again is not immediately has been using to Ultron this method. 魔法给他提供的选择很多,维克托很快就想到了另一种办法。而不打算再拖延时间的他也是立刻的就把这种手段对着奥创施展了出来。 Exile magic, is one of the space magic. The analogy passes on that a master displays to pass the quiet technique, can be classified in the magic system of West to the exile magic arts, naturally, that complex and that's the end. 放逐魔法,也是空间魔法的一种。比方说古一法师所施展的那个通幽术,在西方的魔法体系中也可以被归类到放逐法术之中,当然,那更复杂就是了。 Although Victor is also the eminent in master, the pioneer in hell magic, but said, he cannot achieve that situation of ancient master. The land features magic after all is Kama safe Ji the secret of passing on, in addition does not do great things to transfer the mountain such typical Eastern magic arts, he has the fiendish person generally huge charm, cannot learn these things. 维克托虽然也算是法师中的翘楚,地狱魔法中的先驱,但是说真的,他做不到古一法师的那种地步。地脉魔法毕竟是卡玛泰姬的不传之秘,再加上移山转岳这样典型的东方法术,他就是有魔王一般庞大的魔力,也根本学不到这些东西。 However although the words said that but actually does not mean that he does not have the means of substitution. Must know his status, but hell monarchy, but in the hand of each hell monarchy, may grasp such one set of similar magic arts to crash into the hell. 不过话虽这么说,但是却并不意味着他没有替代的办法。要知道他的身份可是地狱君主,而每一个地狱君主的手中,可都掌握着这么一套类似的法术坠入地狱。 In the ancient times time, the monarchies of hell can willfully any life to the hell that in putting in him controls. So long as nobody meddles the interference, or the opposite party cannot put out to counterattack this method the means that then does not have any means to prevent them to do. 在远古的时代,地狱的君主们可以任意把任何一个生灵给投放到他所掌控的地狱之中。只要没有人插手干涉,或者说对方拿不出反制这种手段的办法,那么就没有任何办法来阻止他们那么做。 Until afterward, Spiritual God and supreme master the awkwardness of the one after another, making the hell monarchies to give up own authority on own initiative, transformed to achieve such goal in the way of contract. 直到后来,神灵与至尊法师的相继为难,使得地狱君主们不得不主动放弃自己的这个权力,转变成以契约的方式来达成这样的目的。 This is a waste, Victor has thought. After he has usurped the Mephisto status, he throws this contract immediately after the brain. 这是一种浪费,维克托一直是这么认为的。所以在他篡夺了墨菲斯托的地位之后,他立刻就把这份契约抛在了脑后。 He is not worried to have any Spiritual God or the supreme master class jumping to him in front in any case, violated this contract to initiate regarding him subjugates. One, various God who no matter declines is supreme the masters not to have that skill to look for his trouble, two come that is, does the contract of his Mephisto signature, what matter close his Victor? 反正他也不担心有什么神灵或者至尊法师之流的跳到他面前,对于他违反了这个契约发起征讨。一来,不管是没落的诸神还是至尊法师都没有那个本事来找他的麻烦,二来也就是,他墨菲斯托签署的契约,关他维克托什么事? No matter he completely existence of any contract non- contract. Before reason that does not use this privilege, completely is because this magic arts is a weak, almost does not have the place that anything can use. But now said that the hell has not existed, but that dimension will not vanish, but makes use of waste to treat as the exile it the destination, happen. Therefore almost does not have hesitant any, Victor was using such magic arts to Ultron. 他完全不管什么契约不契约的存在。之所以以前不怎么动用这个特权,完全是因为这个法术就是个鸡肋,几乎没有什么能动用的地方。而现在虽然说地狱已经不复存在了,但是那个维度可不会消失,而废物利用把它当做放逐的目的地,正好。所以几乎没有任何犹豫的,维克托就对着奥创施展起了这样的法术来。 Just like pulled open a zip fastener to be the same in the air directly, the space was torn directly, a mirror surface appeared, the dimension of hell also exposed in the other aspect of mirror surface. Afterward the huge suction transmits, pulls the Ultron body to him inhale another side of mirror surface. 宛如直接在空气中拉开了一条拉锁一样,空间直接被撕裂,一个镜面显现出来,地狱的维度也跟着暴露在了镜面的另一面。随后庞大的吸力传来,拉扯着奥创的身躯就要把他吸入到镜面的另一边去。 How inspires the body of gold/metal to be again formidable, is impossible to neglect this type because of the suction that the dimension disparity has. In earliest possible time that in this mirror surface presents, his body inevitably was pulled, moved the past toward another side of mirror surface. 振金之躯再怎么强大,也不可能忽视这种因为维度差距而产生的吸力。所以在这个镜面出现的第一时间里,他的身躯就不可避免地被扯动着,向着镜面的另一边移动了过去。 The situation is very obvious, Ultron does not want to make Victor achieve wishes. No matter how he stands firm oneself body, even if said that his both legs distorted for the appearance of tree root, layer upon layer inspires the gold/metal is similar to the root hair deeply digs under the surface generally, cannot prevent displacement on oneself body. 态势很明显,奥创也不想让维克托如愿。但是不管他怎么站定自己的身躯,哪怕说他的双腿都已经变形为树根的模样,层层振金如同根须一般深深扎入地表之下,都不能阻止自己身体上的位移。 This is not the movement on pure individual, but is total mobile that within a space range the magic causes. So long as the goal had not been sent into exile, no matter that he holds anything as leaning on, only will make him connect these thing same places, was sent into exile to the hell . The trees are also good, stone. Even if in other words you grasped an entire mountain, this magic can also gnaw the next opening on the mountain massif. Therefore only if had the specific countermeasure, otherwise also really takes this magic not to have the means. 这并不是单纯的个体上的移动,而是魔法所导致的一个空间范围内的整体移动。只要目标还没有被放逐出去,那么不管他抓住什么作为倚靠,都只会使得他连通那些东西一起,被放逐到地狱里去。树木也好,土石也罢。哪怕就是说你抱住了一整座山,这个魔法也能在山体上啃下一个口子来。所以说除非有了特定的反制手段,否则还真拿这种魔法没有办法。 Ultron naturally does not have the method of this counterattacking, he after all is the product of science and technology, but is not the divine creative force of magic. Therefore he can only , whatever this magic continues. After his part of bodies enter to the mirror surface, he has felt the real intention of this magic to be. 奥创当然没有这种反制的手段,他毕竟是科技的产物,而不是魔法的造物。所以他只能任由这种魔法继续下去。而在他的一部分身躯进入到镜面之后,他就已经感受到了这个魔法的真正意图所在。 Pursues him to a completely void world, this is not the situation that he is willing to see. Must know that takes the intelligent life body, the premises of his all abilities establish the world that in he places is under a premise of developed civilized world. 把他驱逐到一个完全空虚的世界里,这可不是他愿意看到的情况。要知道作为智能生命体,他所有能力的前提都是建立在他所身处的世界是一个发达的文明世界的前提之下。 Information network under the civilization system, is the sphere of action that he can touch. But industrial strength under the civilization system, is the basis that he develops as well as produces is. Lost these, he was almost equal to losing all. If throws him to a anything no nihility world in, then with turns into vegetable not any difference a normal person. 文明体系下的信息网络,是他所能触及的活动范围。而文明体系下的工业力量,则是他发展以及生产的根本所在。失去了这些,他几乎等同于失去了所有。而如果真的把他扔到一个什么都没有的虚无世界里,那么和把一个正常人变成植物人没有任何的区别。 He is to save the world, does not come to turn into any vegetable oneself. Therefore, after he realized situation that oneself face, he starts to look for the method of explaining immediately. 他是来拯救世界的,不是来把自己变成什么植物人的。所以,当他意识到自己所面临的情况之后,他立刻就开始寻找起了破解的方法来。 Solves this problem in the method of magic, this is almost impossible. First did not say Ultron does know anything explains the counterattacking class the magic, is only puts out to explain the fiendish person magic arts the magic level, regarding him is an issue of not being able to untie. 以魔法的手段来解决这个问题,这几乎不可能。先不说奥创知不知道什么破解反制类的魔法,光是拿出能破解魔王法术的魔法水平,对于他来说就是一个解不开的问题。 The imitation turns over to the imitation, the cognition to turn over to cognition. Even if said that he has that skill, imitates ancient master three points of prestige energies through the method observation of science, but this did not represent him to understand clearly the true meaning of magic. He lacks the support of theory, but lacking of this knowledge, made him at all impossible untie oneself immediately difficult position at this time in the method of magic. After all, here second person has not come to observe and imitate for him. 模仿归模仿,认知归认知。哪怕说他有那个本事,通过科学的手段观测模仿出古一法师三分的威能,但是这也并不代表他就洞悉了魔法的真谛。他缺少理论的支持,而这种知识的缺乏,也使得他根本不可能在这个时候以魔法的手段解开自己当下的困境。毕竟,这里没有第二个人来供他观测、模仿。 Magic road definitely walks does not pass, but cannot in the method of magic solve the problem, cannot resist Victor's magic arts on behalf of Ultron in other methods. Science, this is the Ultron attitude of life, but he in idea at this moment is also, opens up this perspective using the science. 魔法这条路肯定是走不通的了,但是不能以魔法的手段解决问题,并不代表奥创就不能以其他的手段来对抗维克托的法术。科学,这是奥创的立身之本,而他在此刻的想法也是,利用科学来打开这个局面。 If the ordinary master stands in his present position, may think such idea some fantasy story, impractical. After all in their eyes, the magic may at all not be existence that science type of crude person thing can explain. However, places Ultron here, this view is actually untenable. 如果是普通的法师站在他如今的位置上,或许会觉得这样的想法有些天方夜谭,不切实际。毕竟在他们的眼里,魔法可根本不是科学这种半吊子玩意所能破解的存在。但是,放在奥创这里,这个说法却是不成立的。 The magic and science, look like in Ultron nothing but are to this world's ascertainment method. The two do not have what fit and unfit quality high below discriminations, even if has, will then be only user will not operate. He does not think the matter that the magic can achieve, the science cannot achieve. But now, he had in view of the idea of this exile magic arts. 魔法和科学,在奥创看来无非就是对这个世界本身的探知手段。二者没有什么优劣高下的区分,就算是有,那么也只是使用者自己不会运作而已。他不认为魔法能做到的事情,科学就做不到。而如今,他就已经是有了针对这种放逐法术的想法。 Swallowing of mirror surface is still continuing, jet black other aspect crazy is swallowing all, no matter other stone anything thing, so long as is existence that and Ultron has contacted, was being swallowed by it. But when it soon swallows Ultron, a Ultron transformation, the silver-white body looks like the innumerable flying ashes is suddenly same immediately, dissipated in the air. 镜面的吞噬还在继续,漆黑另一面疯狂的吞噬着一切,不管是土石还是别的什么东西,只要是和奥创有所接触的存在,都在被它吞噬进去。而就在它快要把奥创吞噬进去的时候,奥创陡然间一阵变换,银白色的躯体立刻就像是无数的飞灰一样,消散在了空气之中。 By his ability, the control inspires the gold/metal change to make the molecular shape, then inspires the revolution of gold/metal member by formidable operation force control each, this is not the issue. But regarding Victor's exile magic, this is actually a very troublesome matter. 以他的能力,操控振金变化做分子形态,然后以强大的运算力控制每一个振金分子的运转,这并不是什么问题。而对于维克托的放逐魔法来说,这却是一个非常麻烦的事情。 So-called exile magic, first most important must have a definite goal. But this goal without a doubt is Ultron oneself. Then the issue came, complete body changes for member shape Ultron, but can also be recognized by the exile magic for the goal? 所谓放逐魔法,首先最重要的就是要有一个确定的目标。而这个目标毫无疑问就是奥创本人。那么问题来了,全部身体化作为分子状的奥创,还能被放逐魔法认定为目标吗? The answer cannot. Similar to we saw that a hair also can only say this is a hair, but cannot say that this is a person is the same. The change cannot be recognized by the exile magic for Ultron of this shape for the goal obviously. From the perspective of magic arts, his whole person was equal to unravelling and not existing, but the nature, sent into exile he also became the impossible matter. 答案是不能。就如同我们看到一根头发也只能说这是一根头发,而不能说这是一个人一样。变化为这种形态的奥创显然也不能被放逐魔法认定为目标。从法术的角度上来说,他整个人都等同于灰飞烟灭、不复存在了,而自然的,放逐他也就成为了不可能的事情。 What the magic is tasteful is the generalization, sends into exile the person who in the concept does not have is the untenable matter, then this magic naturally is unable to continue again. Victor has not arrived at that type to have one's wish the situation of control magic concept, therefore he also can only give up this futile effort at this time the effort, stops oneself this already failed the motion. 魔法讲究的是概念化,在概念上放逐一个不存在的人是不成立的事情,那么这个魔法自然也就无法再继续下去。维克托还没有到那种能够随心所欲操控魔法概念的地步,所以在这个时候他也只能放弃这种徒劳的努力,停止自己这已经失败了的行动. He did not have the means with himself, Ultron has realized this point, then immediately has reorganized from the molecular state. But changes own kind of person shape, he almost does not have any stop, was initiating the charge to Victor. 他拿自己没有办法了,奥创意识到了这一点,尔后立刻就从分子状态中重组了回来。而一变回自己的类人形态,他几乎是没有任何停顿的,就对着维克托发起了冲锋。 Victor experienced his hard to deal with, he never could not see Victor method strange. Excels at existence that learns lessons and teaches as one extremely, a he very clear point is, absolutely do not give him to organize the attack facing such enemy the opportunity. Anybody cannot guarantee, in the method that he has cannot let the card in a hand that you overturn a vehicle. But must make him unable to play such card in a hand, the best means before he plays a card thoroughly defeats him. 维克托见识到了他的难缠,他何尝看不到维克托手段的诡异呢。作为一个极为擅长总结经验和教训的存在,他很清楚的一点就是,面对这样的敌人绝对不要给他重新组织进攻的机会。没有任何人能够保证,他所掌握的手段中没有能让你翻车的底牌。而要让他打不出这样的底牌,最好的办法还是在他出牌之前就彻底地击败他。 Therefore, he is powerful. The rapid offensive adds on strong kinetic energy, making his whole person as if change to the arrow of silver light. But facing such one rashly on the match who the storm comes up, Victor is the facial color one cold has been counter-attacking to him. 为此,他气势如虹。迅疾的攻势加上强劲的动能,使得他整个人都似乎化作了银光之箭。而面对这样一个不由分说就强攻上来的对手,维克托则是面色一寒的就对着他反击了起来。 He is not that type is traced the weakness that near body comes only to be without a fight, must know, he is also the king of hell. 他可不是那种被摸近身来就只能束手就擒的鶸,要知道,他好歹也是地狱之王啊。
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