MSG :: Volume #16

#1569: Bodhi true body clever valley deceased teacher

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More than 30 years ago, this is a very subtle digit. Because more than 30 years ago was the Zhou Yi birth time, was Smith. The reincarnation of week starts to plan the layout time. The card in this special time, Zhou Yi is very difficult not to associate something to Smith. The body of week, but when he plans to ask why. Yellow Emperor actually saw his intention, and such was stating clearly to him directly. 30多年前,这是一个很微妙的数字。因为30多年前是周易出生的时候,也是史密斯.周这一世的转世开始谋划布局的时候。卡在这个特殊的时间点上,周易很难不把一些事情联想到史密斯.周的身上,而就在他打算问个究竟的时候。黄帝却是看出了他的意图,并且直接就对着他这么明说了起来。 „I know that you are thinking anything, but I cannot give you an affirmative answer. This matter you , to know the answer, perhaps also can only oneself have a body to seek from the scarlet pine nut. I can tell you how, only then should look for the ancient method.” “我知道你在想什么,但是我并不能给你一个肯定的答复。这种事情你要想知道答案,恐怕也只能从赤松子本人还有古一的身上去寻找了。我能告诉你的只有该如何寻找古一的方法。” „That, how should I be able to find her?” “那么,我该怎么才能找到她？” Sees from his here cannot ask that a thing, Zhou Yi can only ask this question following his words. All questions can be replied in ancient there in any case, he pours also no longer has to continue to pester Yellow Emperor their plan. 见从他这里问不出来个东西,周易就只能顺着他的话把这个问题问了出来。反正所有的疑问都能在古一那里得到回答,他倒也不再有继续纠缠黄帝他们的打算。 „Is very simple. You do not receive that spirit stones incarnation that Nüwa did leave behind in the subordinates? He is you looks for the method of bodhi founder. Called him, making him lead you to go the slanting moon/month Samsung hole, if the bodhi founder wanted to see you, naturally will open the flood gates to you.” “很简单。你不是把女娲留下的那个灵石化身收在了麾下吗？他就是你找寻菩提祖师的方法。叫上他,让他带你去斜月三星洞、如果菩提祖师想要见你的话,自然会对你大开方便之门的。” Also is an unexpected answer, this made Zhou Yi unable to bear wrinkle own brow. Regarding the view of Yellow Emperor, his subconscious first feeling is, big ostentation. 又是一个出乎意料的答案,这让周易忍不住地就皱起了自己的眉头。对于黄帝的这个说法,他下意识的第一个感觉就是,好大的排场。 Obviously in the fellow who in own domain seeks a livelihood, finally this master must pass, actually not necessarily opens including the gate, what is this? Does the dove occupy the magpie nest? Does the plan change from guest to host? 明明都是在自己的地盘上讨生活的家伙,结果自己这个主人要过去了,却连门都未必开,这是什么意思？鸠占鹊巢吗？还是打算反客为主？ Such is sneering at heart, on the face of Zhou Yi was also flood the cool color. He looks at the present these people, pulls the corners of the mouth to scoff to say with a smile. 心里这么冷笑着,周易的脸上也是泛起了冷色。他看着眼前的这些人,扯着嘴角就嗤笑道。 „Said, my this God was not necessarily able to see him in the past? The really big ostentation, what he has been regarded as the God, what also has regarded itself? Thinks really he can disregard all -resourceful? Said, he thought in this world nobody can govern him?” “这么说,我这个天帝过去都未必能见得到他是吗？真是好大的排场,他把天帝当做是了什么,又把自己当成了什么？真以为他神通广大就能无视一切了吗？还是说,他觉得这个世界上就没有什么人能治得了他了吗？” Although can look at this is Zhou Yi taking the opportunity is venting the anger, but four governing Emperor these individuals have not been able to accuse Zhou Yi anything because of this. In the final analysis, this is plans unable to keep up with change. 虽然能看得出来这是周易在借机发泄怒气,但是四御帝君这些个人还真不能因为这个而指责周易些什么。说到底,这还是计划赶不上变化的过。 If sits jade emperor in God position today, then no one can say that the bodhi founder such doing faction has anything not to be right. Which qualifications because he has. Moreover, even if the jade emperor heart has discontented, wants to be what kind to him, is at wit's end radically. 如果今天坐在天帝位置上的还是玉帝的话,那么谁也不能说菩提祖师这样的做派有什么不对。因为他有哪个资格。而且,就算是玉帝心有不满,想要对他怎么样,也根本是无计可施的。 He is not Zhou Yi, although is the nominal God, the strength that but in the hand grasps is basic and name of God does not match. Let alone came to carry on to manage to these tenants as master. Even if goes these to be the authority of master, he needs the assistance of other people good. But has such premise, who will care the so-called God? Does not make your instead is to your polite. Has any aggrieved place you obediently and honestly to be aggrieved. 他不是周易,虽然是名义上的天帝,但是手里所掌握的力量却根本和天帝之名不相匹配。别说是以主人的身份来对这些个房客们进行管理了。就算是行驶那些属于主人的权力,他都需要旁人的协助才行。而有着这样的前提在,谁又会把所谓的天帝放在心上呢？不造你的反就已经算是对你客气的了。有什么憋屈的地方你还是老老实实地憋屈着吧。 Regarding these can, display such one manner to face the jade emperor greatly, does not have the problem. Gives him a face he is the jade emperor, does not give him the face the words he is a puppet, simply does not have what to be good to fear. However, a similar manner, places in front of Zhou Yi is actually incorrect. Because Zhou Yi takes the jade emperor, has enough ability to exercise own authority. Once he exercises the God power, no matter who must prepare for by that a foot kicks to go out. 对于这些个大能们来说,拿出这么一种态度来面对玉帝,没毛病。给他个面子他才是玉帝,不给他面子的话他就是一个傀儡而已,根本没有什么好怕的。但是,同样的一个态度,放在周易面前却是不行的。因为周易作为玉帝,有着足够的能力去行使自己的权力。而一旦他行使起自己天帝的大权,不管是谁都要做好被一脚踢出门去的准备的。 Said reasonable, bodhi founder right. If insisted saying that he has made a mistake, then also can only say that he has been using the same method for the different people mistakenly. With coping with the method of jade emperor copes with Zhou Yi, is definitely invalid. Moreover definitely wants to pay the heavy price afterward. 讲道理的说,菩提祖师没错。如果硬要说他错了,那么也只能说他错在对不同的人使用了同一个方法而已。拿对付玉帝的方法去对付周易,肯定是行不通的。而且必然是要在事后付出沉重代价的。 This point, four governing emperors are well aware. But as the long-standing friendship of bodhi founder, they are naturally impossible to make the Zhou Yi anger even white fall to the body of bodhi founder, therefore, they have been consoling to Zhou Yi immediately. 这一点,四御帝君心知肚明。而作为菩提祖师的老交情,他们自然不可能让周易的怒火平白地降到菩提祖师的身上,所以立刻的,他们就对着周易劝解了开来。 „Your majesty appeases anger, your majesty appeases anger. This matter not completely is bodhi founder. Must know more than thousand years ago, after teaching that monkey, the bodhi shuts tightly the entrance, no longer exchanges with the outside. These 1000 for many years big or small matters, bodhi again has not meddled, more than 30 years ago is also we personally goes, he received ancient the entrance. To come him at this moment totally not to know regarding all changes of outside. But does not know that not crime, asked that if knew your majesty is the destiny turns over, how he dares to be impolite to your majesty.” “陛下息怒,陛下息怒。此事也不全然是菩提祖师的过。要知道千多年前,在教授了那个猴子之后,菩提就已经是紧闭山门,不再与外界交流。这1000多年来大小事情,菩提都没有再插手过,就连30多年前也是我们亲自前往,他才把古一收到山门中去。想来此刻的他对于外界的所有变化已经是一概不知的。而不知者不罪,试问若是知道了陛下乃天命之所归,他又怎么敢对陛下无礼呢。” Four governing said is listens very much, but regarding their this views of pleasant to hear, Zhou Yi oneself actually snorts contemptuously. 四御所说很是中听,而对于他们这个好听的说法,周易本人却是嗤之以鼻的。 „You said that he does not know the sweeping change between world, these transmitting orders messengers who then I send were also false inadequate. I have said that space underground, as long as has the people of qualifications to above the Saint in the forehead. Said difficultly inadequately, the transmitting orders messengers above forehead were the liquor pouch rice sack, the bodhi founder such character of did not know, didn't know the subpoena? If they transmitted my order, this crime that disobeyed orders does not revere should also be cannot be inescapable.” “你说他不知道天地之间的大变化,那么我派出去的这些个传令使者难道也是假的不成。我说过,天上地下,但凡是有资格之人都要于天庭之上面圣。难不成说,天庭之上的传令使者都是酒囊饭袋,连菩提祖师这样的人物都不知晓,都不知道传唤吗？而如果他们传达到了我的命令,这个抗命不尊的罪过也应该是跑不了的吧。” „Your majesty could rest assured that this inevitably was the fault of transmitting orders immortal officer. They have not passed to bodhi founder there your majesty verbal message inevitably.” “陛下放心,此必然是传令仙官之过。他们必然没有把陛下口信传到菩提祖师那里。” Here issue, Yellow Emperor and the others were almost definitely has actually recognized this reason. But regarding this, their explanations are this. 说到这个问题,黄帝等人却是几乎肯定地认定了这个理由。而对此,他们的解释是这样的。 „To come your majesty not to know the real status of bodhi founder. Before the bodhi founder was pre-Qin, when Spring and Autumn Period Warring States person. His named king Xu, names king Chan. The honorific titles, were called the clever millet.” “想来陛下还不知道菩提祖师的真实身份吧。菩提祖师是先秦以前,春秋战国时人。其名为王诩,又名王禅。有一个尊号,被人称之为鬼谷子。” Clever millet, this was in the ancient China history culture a character of nearly legend. He is the same with Confucius and father, is only a thinker, the educationalist. Magnificent feat that anything has not changed the world, fantastic story different matter that does not have anything animatedly. However, from all of various schools of thought that the angle that and even the entire Huaxia civilization evolves, how this was actually one impossible to be circled past existence, special figure who definitely always remembered. 鬼谷子,这是中国古代历史文化中一个近乎传奇的人物。他本人和孔子、老子一样,只是一个思想家,教育家。并没有什么改天换地的壮举,也没有什么被人津津乐道的奇闻异事。但是,从诸子百家,乃至整个华夏文明演化的角度上来说,这却是一个怎么都不可能被人绕过去的存在,一个必然会被人铭记的特殊人物。 Why said? This also these disciples who must teach from him mentions. If the clever millet lives in seclusion entire life, did not ask the hidden dragon of humans affair. Then his disciple walks in the earthliness, unfolds Wyvern that oneself grand plan Wei hopes. Wyvern in the day, the advantage sees the Sir. It can be said that as long as is the disciple who clever millet teaches, does not have one is the mediocre person, each is considered as on is in the person the dragon. 为什么这么说呢？这还要从他教导的那些个弟子们说起。如果说鬼谷子是一生隐居,不问世事的潜龙。那么其弟子就是行走于俗世之间,一展自己宏图伟愿的飞龙。正所谓飞龙在天,利见大人。可以说,但凡是鬼谷子教授出来的弟子,就没有一个是庸才,各个都算得上是人中之龙。 For example Sun Bin Pang Juan, this is the big energy in military commander. The thirty six strategies spread the eternity, although becomes in Sun Bin's hand, but behind has not had valley devil to be able greatly shadow. Was skilled in said in the military commander, this point regarding the clever millet definitely was without a doubt. 比方说孙膑庞涓,这是兵家之中的大能。三十六计流传千古,虽说是成于孙膑之手,但是背后未尝没有谷鬼子这个大能的影子。精通于兵家之说,这一点对于鬼谷子来说肯定是毫无疑问的。 But beside the military commander, the founder who clever millet also able to move unhindered said. In this point, Su Qinzhang the meter was the evident proof. 而在兵家之外,鬼谷子却也是纵横之说的创始人。这一点上,苏秦张仪便是明证。 «Records of the Grand Historian Qin Biography» carried, „Su Qin, Eastern Zhou Dynasty native of Luoyang. Eastern matter Master in complete/even, but Mr. in of Guigu practicing.” «Records of the Grand Historian Opened Meter Biography» also said that „meter, Wei people. The beginning tasted with Su Mr. Qin Jushi ghost valley, academic. Su Qin Zi took open/stretch Yi.” Looks from this point, Su Qinzhang the meter truly was the clever valley disciple without doubt. But Su Qinzhang was the meter what kind of person also? Most people regarding their impressions probably are also only political opportunists, the inventor of strategic maneuvering word. 《史记・苏秦列传》中有载,“苏秦者,东周洛阳人也。东事师于齐,而习之于鬼谷先生。”《史记・张仪列传》中也说,“张仪者,魏人也。始尝与苏秦俱事鬼谷先生,学术。苏秦自以不及张仪。”从这一点上看,苏秦张仪确实是鬼谷弟子无疑。而苏秦张仪是何许人也呢？大部分人对于他们的印象大概也只是一个纵横家,合纵连横这个词的创造者而已。 Such view does not mean right, but can only say that is too one-sided. Too monotonous. Cannot highlight the skill of political opportunists. If really said earnestly, these two with such a few words described that is most appropriate. That was „by the body of cotton garment, the courtyard says the feudal lord. By having a silver tongue, retreats 1 million mighty armies.” 这样的说法并不是说不对,而只能说太片面。太单调。凸显不出来纵横家的本事。真要是认真说的话,这两人用这样的一句话来形容才是最恰当不过。那就是“以布衣之身,庭说诸侯。以三寸之舌,退却1000000雄师。” Sounds is some exaggeration, but must haggle over really is actually not necessarily. Because of political opportunists originally so. Any political opportunists, the so-called political opportunists know the general situation, estimates friendly \; Passes the words of apology, meets the machine changes. The entire wisdom, the long strategy, can make a decision. Nothing which is not leaves, nothing which is not enters, sees nothing wrong. Opens and closes has, is vertically and horizontally free. Words on today's words, are an outstanding strategist, an outstanding tactician, an outstanding persuasive speaker, as well as a perfect diplomat. 听起来是有些夸张,但是真要计较起来却是未必。因为纵横家本就如此。什么纵横家,所谓纵横家就是知大局,善揣摩\;通辩辞,会机变。全智勇,长谋略,能决断。无所不出,无所不入,无所不可。开合有度,纵横自如。就今天的话来说的话,就是一个优秀的谋略家,一个出色的战术家,一个出类拔萃的说客,以及一个完美的外交家。 These think that political opportunists with the advantage of argument fellow of swindling and abducting, completely is the prejudice. 那些以为纵横家不过是凭着口舌之利去坑蒙拐骗的家伙,完全就是偏见而已。 Su Qin can gather vertical five countries, Peitsi, Zhao, the swallow three countries printed, unite the strength of six country to compel Qin to abandon the imperial throne, this knows the situation. Opens the meter outstanding ability and grand vision, results in the clear/pain 600 miles with the just a few words, this has the pansophy \; Tang Ju fulfills their mission, calls King Qin to save the place of Anling, this is the good courage \; Lin Xiangru returns in full to owner, this has the principle of righteousness. 苏秦能合纵五国,佩齐、赵、燕三国相印,联六国之力逼秦废弃帝位,这是知大势。张仪雄才大略,以片言得楚600里地,这是有大智\;唐雎不辱使命,直斥秦王而存安陵之地,这是行大勇\;蔺相如完璧归赵,这是有大义。 Has such skill, actually must be accused to flaunt the advantage of argument, then also can only say really, must not have anything to be able all over the world again compared with existence of argument advantage. 有如此本事,却还要被人指责为逞口舌之利,那么真的也只能说,普天之下应当是再也没有什么能比口舌更利的存在了。 The political opportunists so lose face, actually also still stems from the clever valley disciple, in addition in the ghost valley gate technique of military commander, the say/way gate thought of clever valley, the law of health treating an illness, he completely it can be said that takes the best, is skilled in hundred. Will say his eternity outstandingly able person, will not be overrated certainly. 纵横家如此出彩,却也依然是出自鬼谷门下,再加上鬼谷门中的兵家之术,鬼谷本人的道门思想,养生医病之法,他完全可以说是博采众长,精通百家。说他一句千古奇人,也绝不为过。 But perhaps also only then such a person, can be joined to bodhi founder given name. 而恐怕也只有这么一个人,才能配得上菩提祖师这个名号了。 Believes that each looks at the person of western roaming to think such an issue, actually that is the bodhi founder is what kind of person. Some people said that he is a Buddhism people, must bodhi revering. However this view cannot be able to stand firmly. Because must the bodhi also be only revering of practicing Bodhisattva line, only perhaps also not necessarily and on monkey by strength, possibly teaches the monkey this all-resourceful fellow? 相信每一个看过西游的人都想过这么一个问题,那就是菩提祖师究竟是何许人也。有人说他是佛门中人,须菩提尊者。但是这一个说法并不能站得住脚。因为须菩提也只是修行菩萨行的尊者,单论实力恐怕还未必及得上猴子,又怎么可能教出猴子这个神通广大的家伙呢？ Moreover said again, bodhi founder is skilled in 360 side doors in the west roaming. The Confucianist, buddhist, Taoism, yin-yang school, the Mohist school and medicine nothing which is not pass. Must know, after the Buddhism entered the eastern earth also that is the Eastern Han Dynasty matter. Before that Dong Zhongshu early rejects hundred, revered the Confucianist method alone. He has huge skill, when impossible Spring and Autumn Period Warring States the theory of hundred school of thought contending learning. 而且再说了,菩提祖师在西游中精通360旁门。儒家、释家、道家、阴阳家、墨家、医家无所不通。要知道,佛门入了东土也那是东汉以后的事情了。在那之前,董仲舒早已经是罢黜百家,独尊儒术了。他就是有天大的本事,也不可能把春秋战国时百家争鸣的学说给学会了。 Therefore the so-called bodhi founder and he does not have the 10 cents relations. On the contrary is clever millet person possibility also greatly. Able to move unhindered the first ancestor should be an ideological open-minded generation, studied a buddhism to be careful, has traded the Buddhism given name, did not have the problem. 所以所谓的菩提祖师和他并没有一毛钱的关系。反倒是鬼谷子这个人可能性还更大一点。纵横鼻祖本应该就是一个思想豁达之辈,学了点释门经意,换了个佛门名号,没毛病。 But he must really be clever millet oneself words, then a lot could also convince. 而他要真是鬼谷子本人的话,那么很多事情也就说得通了。
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