MIE :: Volume #2

#154: President Xu of touching a stone and turn it into gold


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After the conference ended, Count Samo kept Xu Yi again alone. 会议结束后,萨摩伯爵再次将许亦单独留了下来。 No one is surprised, a moment ago because in the conference, Count Samo had not proposed to Xu Yi agricultural industrialization development continues to inquire, then wants certainly after the conference ended alone and Xu Yi launches to speak in detail. 没有人对此感到意外,因为刚才在会议上,萨摩伯爵并没有对许亦提出的“农业产业化发展”继续询问,那么当然是想在会议结束后单独和许亦展开详谈。 However with the difference that the people imagine, Count Samo Xu Yi leaves behind, first does not have asked agricultural industrialization development the issue, but asked another by many people neglected the issue. 不过和众人想象的不同,萨摩伯爵许亦留下,却并没有第一时间问起“农业产业化发展”的问题,而是问起了另外一个被很多人忽略掉了的问题。 That that President Xu, you said a moment ago canned fruit factory, I remember that you had mentioned to me, is the plan sets up in Stantin Duchy. Now you say that must recruit 500 workers...... you to plan in Bunta City brings to go to Stantin Duchy these workers?” Count Samo asked. 许会长,你刚才说的那个‘水果罐头工厂’,我记得你曾经向我提起过,是打算在斯坦丁公国开办的。现在你却说要在邦塔城招募五百名工人……难道你打算把这些工人们带到斯坦丁公国去吗?”萨摩伯爵问道。 Of course not.” Xu Yi shakes the head immediately. Recruited the manpower to take away Stantin Duchy that cost from here is also high. My meaning was the one of the plan first in Bunta City step builds up a canned fruit factory, the address has elected, by Koror village outside city.” “当然不是。”许亦立即摇头。“从这里招募人手带去斯坦丁公国那成本也太高了。我的意思是打算在邦塔城内先一步建起一家水果罐头工厂,地址已经选好了,就在城外科罗尔村旁边。” Koror village?” Count Samo thought. This village not, in you give in the list that my first batch of relocations transform, moreover from is not near from Bunta City, why will choose in that place, rather than in Sang Qidun the industrial district?” 科罗尔村?”萨摩伯爵想了一下。“这个村子并不在你给我的第一批拆迁改造的名单上,而且距离邦塔城距离也不近,为什么会选择在那个地方,而不是在桑启顿工业区里?” Mainly is because nearby the Koror village is the Bunta City fruit trees most centralized region , after is I and President Cantona discussed that determined that later will take the central location of Bunta City fruit production base. The canned fruit factory constructs in that place, facilitates first processes the fruit.” Xu Yi replied. “主要是因为科罗尔村附近是邦塔城果林最为集中的区域,也是我和坎通纳会长商议后,确定以后会作为邦塔城水果生产基地的中心位置。水果罐头工厂建在那个地方,方便第一时间对水果进行加工。”许亦答道。 President Cantona?” Count Samo frowns slightly. I good to listen to you to raise this name, his chamber of commerce is mainly not helps other peasant households unify to conduct farmland harvesting? How can with you discuss that builds up a fruit production base matter?” 坎通纳会长?”萨摩伯爵微微皱起眉头。“我好想听你提起过这个名字,他那个商会不是主要是帮助其他农户统一进行农田收割的吗?怎么会和你商量建起一个水果生产基地这种事?” A moment ago Sir City Lord, this just right and I raised agricultural industrialization development has the relations, even can say. This President Cantona is most essential character, function similar key that their chamber of commerce plays.” 城主大人,这正好和我刚才提起的‘农业产业化发展’有关系,甚至可以说。这个坎通纳会长是其中最为关键的人物,他们商会起到的作用同样关键。” Count Samo could not bear smile: I have not raised, you actually first this topic raising. Good, since you raised on own initiative, then told me in detail. What relations this President Cantona and his chamber of commerce have with agricultural industrialization development that’ you did say? That you said agricultural industrialization development specifically what's the matter?” 萨摩伯爵忍不住笑了起来:“我还没有提起来,你倒是先把这个话题给提出来了。好吧,既然你主动提起来了,那么就详细地告诉我。这个坎通纳会长和他的商会到底和你说的‘农业产业化发展’有什么关系?你说的这个‘农业产业化发展’具体又是怎么回事?” Good.” Xu Yi nods, is impolite, reorganized a mentality in the mind, sincere say/way: Sir City Lord, about agricultural industrialization development, sounds like a very complex matter. But if changes a view, is actually simple easy to understand. Simply speaking, farming the related all things regards an entire industry, gives others to do, but the City Lord mansion only needs to receive enough much grain every year on the line.” “好。”许亦点了点头,也不客气,在脑海里整理了一下思路,正色道:“城主大人,关于‘农业产业化发展’,听起来似乎是件挺复杂的事情。但是如果换一个说法,其实非常简单易懂。简单来说,就是把种田相关的所有事情都当成一项完整的产业,交给别人去做,而城主府只需要每年收到足够多的粮食就行。” That does not hire the farmland, what has to distinguish with the present?” Count Samo knits the brows to ask. Now the Bunta City farmland hires to city outside each peasant household. The City Lord mansion only needs to be responsible for every year collecting rent, with the thing that you said isn't a matter?” “那不就是把农田出租出去嘛,和现在有什么区别?”萨摩伯爵皱眉问道。“现在邦塔城的农田本来就是出租给了城外的各个农户。城主府只需要负责每年的收租,和你说的这个东西难道不是一回事吗?” Naturally is not a matter.” Xu Yi shakes the head saying: Similarly is the hiring, but the peasant households outside city rent the land actually to rent a scrap farmland now, every year income delivers is not high, therefore the peasant households regarding continue farm as a tenant the farmland interest is not high, but rather chooses to enter in the factories of major chambers of commerce to work. But if conducts the industrial production to transform, these scattered farmland centralized in the same place. Carries on the overall plan planter, can liberate these peasant households, gives the Cantona chamber of commerce to plan the farmland to take like this specially planting the farmland for the chamber of commerce operation of principal work, enhances these farmland values. Regardless of regarding the Cantona chamber of commerce regarding the City Lord mansion, is an extremely helpful matter.” “当然不是一回事。”许亦摇头道:“同样是出租,但是现在城外的农户们租用土地却只是租用一小块农田而已,每年的收入产出都不高,所以农户们对于继续租种农田兴趣也不高,而宁愿选择进入各大商会的工厂里工作。但是如果进行产业化改造,将这些零零散散的农田集中在一起。进行整体的规划种植,就可以将这些农户们解放出来,把农田交给坎通纳商会这样打算专门以种植农田为主业的商会运营,提高这些农田的价值。无论对于坎通纳商会还是对于城主府来说,都是一件极有帮助的事情。” But didn't these peasant households have the farmland to cultivate?” Count Samo tightens the brow. Snatches from the peasant household hand the farmland, to break their way out?” “但是那些农户们不就没有农田耕种了?”萨摩伯爵紧锁眉头。“把农田从农户手中抢过来,岂不是断了他们的生路?” Xu Yi cannot bear shake the head: Sir City Lord, you stay in that old thought. I hadn't said to you in the conference a moment ago? Now the peasant households outside city absolutely do not have many people willing to cultivate the farmland. Because compared with the busy practical training in the paddies actually can only receive all year round is less than ten gold coins, enters the factory work actually one year of income even to achieve over a hundred gold coins. Such big disparity, you, even if gives them the farmland, they are not willing to cultivate.” 许亦忍不住摇了摇头:“城主大人,您还是停留在那种老思维之中啊。刚才在会议上我不是向您说过了吗?现在城外的农户们根本就没多少人愿意去耕种农田了。因为比起一年到头在田地里繁忙劳作却只能收入不到十枚金币而言,进入工厂工作却可以一年收入甚至达到上百枚金币。这么大的差距,你就算给他们农田,他们也不会愿意去耕种啊。” Although you said right. However I always thought that this will have problems.” Count Samo shakes the head gently. In the factory works, although the wage indeed is much higher, but how you ensure their work have had? If the factory went out of business, the workers were out of work, then discovered oneself cannot plant the field, that will certainly cause the major problem.” “虽然你说的没错。但是我总觉得这样会出问题。”萨摩伯爵轻轻摇头。“在工厂里工作虽然薪水的确高得多,但是你如何保证他们这份工作会一直拥有呢?如果工厂倒闭了,工人们失去了工作,然后发现自己连田都不能种,那一定会引起大问题的。” Xu Yi shows a faint smile: I understand your worry. However Sir City Lord. I thought that you should be more confident to the integral development of Bunta City. Compared to be worried that factory closing of which chamber of commerce makes the workers be out of work, you might as well worried that Bunta City can keep up with the present rapid growth, satisfies our major chamber of commerce's keen demands to the manpower.” 许亦微微一笑:“我理解您的担心。但是城主大人。我觉得您更应该对邦塔城的整体发展更有信心。相比起担心哪家商会的工厂关门让工人们失去工作,您还不如担心邦塔城能不能跟得上现在的快速发展,满足我们各大商会对人力的大量需求。” Count Samo stared Xu Yi one: Do not remind me obliquely, introduces manpower matter I to do, but in the kingdom other big aristocrats always in the person to oneself territory attach great importance to, this work was not good to give up. Good, you, since said that I do not need to worry this issue, that first does not discuss for the time being. Words inference that said from you a moment ago, is this Cantona chamber of commerce the plan farms as a tenant a big farmland directly?” 萨摩伯爵瞪了许亦一眼:“不要拐弯抹角地提醒我,引进人手这件事我一直在做,只不过王国内其他大贵族们一向对自己领地上的人十分重视,这项工作并不好做罢了。好吧,你既然说我不需要担心这个问题,那就暂且先不谈。从你刚才说的话推断,这个坎通纳商会是打算直接租种一大片农田吗?” Yes. After me and President Cantona discussion, President Cantona initially decided, wants to farm as a tenant including the Koror village and Kanbe inferior (Asia) village and all farmland within Moxilan Village three village scopes.” “是的。经过我和坎通纳会长的商议,坎通纳会长初步决定,希望租种包括科罗尔村、坎比亚村、墨西兰村三个村子范围内的所有农田。” „, The big boldness, the one breath wants to wrap the next three villages unexpectedly.” Count Samo acclaimed one. But he has thought that the farmland of these three villages in the peasant households by village have been rented now, even if I want to rent these farmland to him, actually cannot easily take back. How this issue does he plan to solve?” “呵,好大的魄力,居然一口气就想包下三个村子。”萨摩伯爵赞叹了一句。“但是他有没有想过,这三个村落的农田现在都已经被村中的农户们租借走了,就算是我想把这些农田租借给他,却也不是能够轻易收回的。这个问题他打算怎么解决?” Xu Yi does not have first to answer the Count Samo issue, but is the silent moment, after hesitant one next, some scruple tunnels: Sir City Lord,...... in my opinion, the kingdom is actually not good regarding the treatment of ordinary peasant household. Farmers every year cultivates diligently, finally actually must be taken away most grain crops by the kingdom, can only at most remaining the grain of eking out a living. Such life, I do not think that these ordinary farmers will have anything to yearn.” 许亦并没有第一时间回答萨摩伯爵的问题,而是沉默片刻,犹豫了一下后,这才有些迟疑地道:“城主大人,其实……在我看来,王国对于普通农户的待遇非常不好。农民们每年努力耕种,最后却要被王国收走大部分的粮食收成,顶多只能剩下勉强糊口的粮食而已。这样的生活,我不认为那些普通的农民们会有什么留恋。” Count Samo knit the brows to look at Xu Yi one, discovered that his expression was very earnest, and did not seem like speaks thoughtlessly the nonsense, then sighs gently, helpless said/tunnel: What although you said is the fact right, but this is the custom. Not is only our Lanpali Kingdom, on entire Sainz Continent in all countries, life of the ordinary peasants good not to go to there.” 萨摩伯爵皱眉看了许亦一眼,发现他的表情十分认真,并不像是随口胡说,便轻轻叹了一口气,无奈地道:“虽然你说的是事实没错,但是这就是规矩。不仅仅是我们兰帕里王国,整个赛恩斯大陆上所有的国家里,普通农民们的生活也不会好到那里去。” Therefore , Sir City Lord your worry has nothing necessary.” A Xu Yi thread of conversation revolution. „Before Cantona, is the ordinary peasant in Kanbe inferior (Asia) village, his very clear ordinary peasants to cultivating the attitude of farmland matter. Without choice, the cultivation farmland can be the only method of life. However in having situation of choice, these farmers no one are willing to continue to cultivate the farmland to get down.” “所以说,城主大人您的顾虑没有任何必要。”许亦话锋一转。“坎通纳自己以前就是坎比亚村的一个普通农民,他很清楚普通农民们对耕种农田这种事情的态度。在没有选择的情况下,耕种农田可以作为活命的唯一手段。但是在有选择的情况下,这些农民们没有任何人愿意继续耕种农田下去。” You meant that...... these farmers want me to receive very much from their hands the farmland, sublets again to the Cantona chamber of commerce?” Count Samo asked. “你的意思是说……那些农民们很愿意我把农田从他们手中收回来,再转租给坎通纳商会?”萨摩伯爵问道。 Yes. Actually Cantona wants to bypass the City Lord mansion, sublets these farmland from these peasant household hands directly. And he has investigated in these three villages, over over 95% ordinary peasant households explicitly expressed the agreement. However he when sought information the opinion to me, was actually overruled by me.” “是的。其实坎通纳本来想绕过城主府,直接从这些农户手中转租到这些农田。并且他在这三座村子里做过调查,超过95%以上的普通农户明确表示了同意。但是他在向我征询意见的时候,却被我否决了。” Count Samo cold snort/hum: Overrules well. This matter does he also plan to hide the truth from me to be inadequate? Really does not know the immensity of heaven and earth.”, Also asked to Xu Yi: You raise this matter to me now on own initiative, was expresses support for him?” 萨摩伯爵冷哼了一声:“否决得好。这种事情他还打算瞒过我不成?真是不知天高地厚。”顿了顿,又向许亦问道:“你现在主动向我提起这件事情,就是对他表示支持了?” I expressed support for his idea, but did not support his approach, therefore you will then mention to Sir City Lord on own initiative, hopes that can obtain a more reasonable safe method.” Xu Yi said. “我对他的想法表示支持,但并不支持他的做法,所以这才会主动向城主大人您提起,希望能够获得一个更加合理稳妥的方法。”许亦道。 Then your concrete idea?” Count Samo asked back. “那么你的具体意见呢?”萨摩伯爵反问。 My opinion, is hopes that Sir City Lord you can agree with integrate the first batch of pilots these three villages, agrees to rent all farmland of these three villages to the Cantona chamber of commerce. But Sir City Lord you only need to regard an ordinary peasant household to regard the Cantona chamber of commerce, a taxes copper coin that every year should gather are also many. Only difference, the farmland area that but this peasant household contracts was bigger.” “我的意见,就是希望城主大人您可以同意将这三个村落纳入第一批的试点,将这三个村落的所有农田都同意租借给坎通纳商会。而城主大人您只需要把坎通纳商会当成一个普通的农户看待,每年应该收取的税赋一个铜板也不少。唯一的区别,只是这个农户承包的农田面积大了些罢了。” Theoretically, this idea is indeed good.” Count Samo nods. But I have a very essential issue. Similarly is the farmland, will only make them live in these ordinary peasant household hands reluctantly, now falls into the Cantona chamber of commerce hand, how can also during the guarantee taxes does, gain to enough money?” “从理论上来说,这个想法的确不错。”萨摩伯爵点了点头。“但是我有一个很关键的问题。同样是农田,在那些普通的农户手中只会让他们勉强生活,现在落入坎通纳商会手中,又如何能够在保证税赋的同时,从中赚到足够的钱呢?” Simply speaking, saves the cost through the industrial production and formalization, the change structure, enhances to produce to get the interests. The words that naturally in fact must make is a very complex matter, but this actually and Sir City Lord don't you have the too big relations not? You only need to receive enough taxes every year on the line, how to get the interests, that is the matter that the Cantona chamber of commerce should consider.” Xu Yi said. “简单来说,就是通过产业化和规模化节约成本,改变结构,提高产出来获得利益。当然实际上要做的话就是一件很复杂的事情,不过这其实和城主大人您没有太大的关系不是吗?您只需要每年收到足够的税赋就行,如何从中获得利益,那是坎通纳商会应该考虑的事情。”许亦道。 Said right, but I am worried about their chamber of commerce very much, if cannot therefore make money, will give up directly, instead makes these agricultural Tahira leave uncultivated white/in vain.” “说得没错,不过我很担心他们商会如果不能因此赚到钱的话,就会直接放弃,反而让这些农田平白荒废掉。” This I think that you do not need to be worried. I have held the multiple discussions with President Cantona on this aspect, I can guarantee, their chamber of commerce will find the methods of much money -making, will insist on absolutely this attempt.” “这个我想您不需要担心。我已经和坎通纳会长就这方面进行过多次探讨,我可以保证,他们商会会找到多种赚钱的方法,绝对会把这次尝试坚持下去。” Looks at the Xu Yi confident smiling face, Count Samo cannot bear smile. 看着许亦充满信心的笑容,萨摩伯爵忍不住笑了起来。 I forgot actually, since this matter has you to participate, what's the big deal possibly does not make money. I said right? By everyone is thought even a stone can still become gold coin President Xu it?” “我倒是忘了,这件事情既然有你参与进去,那又怎么可能不赚钱。我说的对吗?被所有人认为就算是一块石头也能把它变为金币的许会长?” Xu Yi laughs, nods unrestrained/no trace of politeness. 许亦哈哈一笑,毫不客气地点了点头。
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