Chapter 424 seeks an interview not to have vigorously 第424章求见洛无疾 The sound of prime minister categorical disputing makes the emperor also hesitant, just the young official firm spoken language of made him feel that the prime minister embezzled certainly, now he feels the prime minister said is so earnest, should not embezzle, does not know how at once should do, is actually at a loss for words directly. 丞相斩钉截铁的辩驳之声让皇帝又犹豫起来,刚刚年轻官员坚决的言语让他觉得丞相一定贪污了,现在他又觉得丞相说的这么认真,应该是没有贪污,一时之间不知道该如何去做,竟然直接语塞起来。 „Does your majesty, feudal official one base and low Duke, how possibly dare to slander a prime minister?” “陛下,臣不过一个卑微公器而已,怎么可能敢于污蔑一位丞相呢？” Saying, the young official puts out a hand to take out one pack of thick papers from the sleeve cuff, said loudly: „Your majesty, this is the evidence.” 说着,年轻官员伸手从袖口中取出一叠厚厚的纸,大声道:“陛下,这是罪证。” The emperor sends people to take, 11 read, was partial to young official side, the anger rises unceasingly, later drops out the paper directly completely, shouted loudly: „Wei!” 皇帝派人取过,一一翻看,又偏向了年轻官员这一方,怒气不断上涨,随后直接将纸张全部抛下,大声喝道:“廷尉！” „Feudal official in!” “臣在！” Wei scalp tingles lowers the head to go out. 廷尉头皮发麻的垂首走出。 „This matter gives you, must verify the details, cannot have the slight errors absolutely, listened clearly?” “这件事交给你,务必要查实详情,绝对不能有丝毫错漏,听清楚了吗？” „Feudal official understands.” “臣明白。” Matter made this situation, toward cannot open greatly, the emperor broke up directly in the harem, the full palace whole body of ministers thoughts varied left in the palace. 事情闹到了这个地步,大朝会根本就开不下去了,皇帝直接散会回了后宫之中,满殿群臣则心思各异的离开了殿中。 ...... …… Is held when Chang'an here greatly toward the meeting, Anyang Hou Han forest actually arrives at the illustrious city to seek an interview not to have vigorously, he comes on behalf of the feudal rulers military exploit aristocrat group. 就在长安这里举行大朝会时,安阳侯韩林却来到了昭城求见洛无疾,他是代表列侯军功贵族集团而来的。 Although the royal government military takes the Great General as to revere now, but some people will not forget, the illustrious city Roche family lord is the true No. 1 character, in this life only also living has greatly Sima person, one of the Emperor martial period troikas. 虽然现在朝廷军方以大将军为尊,但是不会有人忘记,昭城洛氏家主才是真正的一号人物,当今世上唯一还活着的拥有大司马号的人,武皇帝时期的三驾马车之一。 Palace. 洛宫。 The Han forest enters in no illness/quick room then deeply to bow to bow in salute saying: „Foreign subject see Grand Duke, Grand Duke Wan An innumerable blessings..” 韩林一进洛无疾室中便深深躬身作揖道:“外臣参见大公,大公万安万福。。” Does not have vigorously by the bed, asked: „Anyang Hou secure, but also please sit down, what matter comes this behavior?” 洛无疾靠在床榻上,问道:“安阳侯安,还请坐,来此所为何事啊？” Han forest Gui sits down later hears word to say indignantly: „ Grand duke, Imperial Court have the traitor. 韩林跪坐下之后闻言愤愤道:“大公,朝中有奸贼啊。 In the past King Wen and Emperor Xiaowen for me and other ancestor to seal/confer Guo, preserved forever the peace, lasted forever for the guy state. 当年洛文王与孝文皇帝为我等先祖封国,永葆太平,是为了大汉社稷永存啊。 Now arrives at such critical time, I and others had a mind to eliminate the thief, actually does not know that should do. 现在就到了这样危急的时刻,我等有心除贼,却不知道该不该去做。 Therefore wants to inquire that your opinion, idol that you are the world military person, if there are you to give us the reassuring medicine, the brothers can set firm resolve. ” 所以想要来询问您的意见,您是天下武人的偶像,若是有您给我们定心丸,兄弟们就都能下定决心了。” No illness/quick tone asked lightly: „? Imperial Court traitors? I in Imperial Court, did not mention for a long time listen, what did these people make?” 洛无疾语气淡淡问道:“哦？朝中奸贼？我许久不在朝中了,说来听听,这些人做了什么？” The Han forest then said directly: „The biggest traitor is the prime minister, the emperor is muddle-headed unclearly, really cannot guard ancestor ancestral temple state clear(ly) the enlightened ruler, the Liu landscape for is sagacious for the rulers and ministers, to his hand, really had the danger of tilting, this is really the shame to the generations.” 韩林便直接说道:“最大的奸贼就是丞相,皇帝则昏聩不明,实在不是能够守卫祖宗宗庙社稷的明君圣主啊,刘氏江山代代君臣贤明,到了他的手中,竟然有倾覆的危险了,这实在是愧对列祖列宗啊。” No illness/quick eyelid jumps, the resentment of military exploit aristocrat is very big, he can look, the Anyang marquises really thought the prime minister is the traitor, the emperor cannot withstand stupidly. 洛无疾眼皮一跳,军功贵族的怨气很大,他能看出来,安阳侯是真的觉得丞相是奸贼,皇帝昏庸不堪。 The Han forest has not paid attention to the no vigorous expression, palace place, can speak freely, his altogether said the ideas in most feudal rulers hearts, „ Grand Duke. 韩林没注意洛无疾的表情,洛宫这个地方,就是能够畅所欲言,他一股脑的将大多数列侯心中的想法都说了出来,“大公。 Pays for a murder with one's life, avenging a grievance, this is the perfectly justified matter. 杀人偿命,报仇雪恨,这是天经地义的事情啊。 Southern China war, to defend the landscape state of guy. 南国战事,是为了保卫大汉的江山社稷。 You know that Anyang is remote of thousand li (500 km) from the southern China, even still southwest foreign, and is no good to my Anyang Hou Residence. 您知道的,安阳距离南国有千里之遥,即便平定西南夷,对我安阳侯府并没有什么好处。 Moreover the father is opposed to march rashly, advocated that suppresses caresses the union, but the emperor does not listen, to repay the kindness of royal government, my father set foot on that lands resolutely. 而且父亲本是反对贸然进军的,主张剿抚结合,但皇帝不听,为了报答朝廷的恩典,我的父亲毅然决然的踏上了那片土地。 18 feudal rulers bleed 100,000 mountains, 200,000 army destruction. 十八位列侯喋血十万大山,二十万大军覆灭。 My father then dies there, the clansmen of 17 Anyang Han, until now, the corpses cannot retrieve, people like me, far more, ten, by ten thousand calculate, do the pain in our heart and hate the emperor unclear? 我的父亲便是薨在那里,还有十七个安阳韩氏的族人,直到现在,就连尸身都没能找回,我这样的人,又何止一个,十个,是以万来计算的,我们心中的痛苦和仇恨难道皇帝不清楚吗？ I and others guard the state by the blood, suffered such big loss, has voices the complaint to the emperor? 我等以血捍卫社稷,遭受了这么大的损失,有对皇帝发出怨言吗？ No! 没有！ I and others submitted a written statement to restart the war, the emperor remains does not send, when sees right in front of one me and others, actually got down the bearing the blame imperial edict. 我等只是上书想要重启战事,皇帝留中不发,等到面见我等之时,却下了罪己诏。 He wants stop battle. 他要罢战。 He said that beforehand made the mistake, cannot go to war again. 他说之前做错了,不能再打仗了。 Really laughable. 真是可笑啊。 The southern China is the land of guy, was the land of countries comprising China in feudal times, the Yi and Di invaded there, we sent the main strength to ask, what wrong had? 南国是大汉的土地,是诸夏的土地,夷狄侵占了那里,我们发大兵讨回,何错之有？ Even if was Emperor tall and Soseong of Silla Station in the front of foreign subject, the foreign subject also dares to walk tall to say itself right. 纵然是高皇帝和昭圣王站在外臣的面前,外臣也敢挺直腰杆说自己没错。 The only mistake is defeated, but doesn't matter, the guy also has the sufficient ample force, we can defeat ten times, southwest foreign is not good. 唯一的错就是失败,但没关系,大汉还有足够的余力,我们能败十次,西南夷却不行。 Finally the emperor actually wants stop battle, the spiritless emperor, submits under the blade soldiers of Yi and Di, has asked our opinion? 结果皇帝竟然要罢战,懦弱的皇帝,屈服在夷狄的刀兵之下,问过我们的意见吗？ How does he match the successor who is Emperor Xiaowu? 他怎么配做孝武皇帝的继承人？ Submits to the barbarian, forgot the guidance that uncrowned king emperor's father summer Yi does not coexist, can openly be the emperor in countries comprising China in feudal times? 屈服于蛮夷,忘记了素王上皇夏夷不两立的教导,难道还能堂而皇之的做诸夏的天子吗？ Because of his mistake, made us withstand such pain, the opportunity of now avenging a grievance did not give, how this was heartless and cruel, emperor who treated unkindly unkindly. 因为他的过错,却让我们承受了这样的苦痛,现在就连报仇雪恨的机会也不给,这是怎样狼心狗肺,刻薄寡恩的皇帝啊。 Why doesn't he die? 他为什么不去死呢？ Why he can also have the appearance to live under this blue sky. ” 他为什么还能有面目活在这片青天之下啊。” Anyang Hou Han forest almost clenches jaws, originally the resentment to southwest foreign, all vents the body of emperor now. 安阳侯韩林几乎是咬牙切齿,本来对西南夷的怨气,现在全都发泄到了皇帝的身上。 Does not have the illness/quick not to think that the resentment of feudal rulers is so big, this is not discontented with the prime minister, but was discontented with the emperor, the prime minister belongs is processed while convenient. 洛无疾都没想到列侯们的怨气这么大,这已经不是对丞相不满,而是对皇帝不满了,丞相属于顺带被处理的。 This is not the simple political struggle, because the political struggle is the pure conflict of interests, so long as the method is excellent, can compromise contradictory. 这不是简简单单的政治斗争,因为政治斗争是纯粹的利益之争,只要手段高超,是可以调和其中矛盾的。 But now the feudal rulers merit expensive/noble feels itself right! 但现在列侯勋贵们觉得自己没错！ In perhaps this group of people shamelessly seeks gain, but like Anyang Hou Han forest this type really ambitious same many. 这群人里面或许很多蝇营狗苟,但是像安阳侯韩林这种真的有理想的同样不少。 This group of people are the War Hawk in typical War Hawk, in the brain have not compromised, without making concessions, is fighting with all might of life and death real swords and spears frequently. 这群人就是典型的鹰派中的鹰派,脑子里面没有妥协,没有退让,时时刻刻就是要你死我活的真刀真枪的拼杀。 This thought in fact not only during the army meritorious service is expensive is in fashion, is in fashion in many Confucian scholars similarly, goes beyond compared with the big revenge of previous generation Duke Yang. 这种思想实际上不仅仅在军功勋贵之中风行,在许多儒生之中同样风行,比起前世公羊家的大复仇有过之而无不及。 Roche has always been making efforts to the inner world of person of mold countries comprising China in feudal times. 洛氏一直致力于塑造诸夏之人的精神世界。 Let the world person not be the spiritual slave, when common people can in the front stiff back of emperor, that succeed. 让天下人不做精神上的奴隶,什么时候一个百姓能在皇帝的面前挺直腰杆,那就成功了。 Wants the world person to have the abundant rebellious spirit, now looks like, although the common people have not succeeded, but the powerful official has succeeded half, the aristocrat of guy has the heroic spirit, is not fears it to the emperor like the tiger. 想要天下人有充沛的反抗精神,现在看来,虽然百姓还没有成功,但是权贵已经成功一半了,大汉的贵族相当有主人翁精神,对皇帝并不是畏之如虎。 But advantages are accompanied by disadvantages, the rebellious spirit of person is too full, will be fearless, looks like the present feudal rulers merit to be expensive, actually questioned that directly the emperor does not match to be the emperor, if pondered again downward, must give birth the thoughts of dethroning and enthroning the emperor? 但有利有弊,人的反抗精神太足,就会天不怕地不怕,就像是现在的列侯勋贵,竟然直接质疑皇帝不配做皇帝,若是再往下思考,是不是还要生出了废立皇帝的心思？ The monarchy most conforms to the current system, can maintain the universal political systems only, the authority of imperial family must be guaranteed. 帝制是最符合当今的制度,是唯一能够维护大一统的政治制度,皇室的威权必须要得到保证。 Does not have the illness/quick to feel the thought that for the first time family carries out somewhat was possibly overdone, this sharpens the sharp sword was really sharp. 洛无疾第一次觉得家族推行的思想可能有些过火了,这把利剑磨的实在是太锋利了。 Once processing is not good, these people will even possibly interrogate the emperor directly, interrogated that his these lose the emperor who the earth is insulted, but also there is what qualifications to sit in the throne! 一旦处理不好,这些人甚至可能会直接质问皇帝,质问他这些失土受辱的皇帝,还有什么资格坐在皇位上！ Gave them to be free newly, but currently has to ignite freely, the arrogant troops brave warrior was not enough to describe, these feudal rulers had oneself political line. 洛新给了他们自由,但是现在自由有点过火了,骄兵悍将不足以形容,这些列侯有了自己的政治路线。 This was too fearful. 这太可怕了。 Does not have the illness/quick not to think oneself hit the Hsiungnu young, middle age time governs the western region, is relaxed, by old age time, will come across such tricky matter unexpectedly. 洛无疾没想到自己年轻的打匈奴,中年的时候治西域,都轻轻松松,到了晚年的时候,竟然会遇到这么棘手的事情。 He is an unparalleled combat general, is not considered as to the talent in political aspect extremely, although the present is a family lord, what in fact in family chancellor is others. 他是个无双的战将,对政治这方面的天赋不算是绝顶,虽然现在是家主,但实际上家族中主事的是其他人。 No illness/quick pondered, then said slowly: „The Anyang marquis, you still remembers that my uncle, when Huaiyin martial Mu marquis is poor deeds?” 洛无疾沉思了一下,然后缓缓说道:“安阳侯,你还记得我的姑父,淮阴武穆侯贫寒时的事迹吗？” Han forest hears the words stares, said scruple: „Did you mean in years past the matter of butcher?” 韩林闻言一愣,迟疑道:“您是说昔年屠夫之事吗？” No illness/quick sinking sound said: „ Although because of paternal aunt's reason, martial Muhou has not first received the shame of crotch, but martial Muhou actually knows the onset and retreat. 洛无疾沉声道:“虽然因为先姑母的缘故,武穆侯未曾受到胯下之辱,但是武穆侯却知道进退。 you want to revenge, this is indeed reasonable, anybody cannot prevent you, but haven't you thought? 伱们想要报仇,这的确是合理的,任何人不能阻止你们,但是你们都没有想过吗？ Knows oneself and other side, is undefeated in many battles. 知己知彼,百战不殆。 Does the southern China lose merely because of the mistake of emperor? 南国兵败难道仅仅是因为皇帝的错误吗？ The strange environment, the sudden epidemic disease is the major problem, again what to do if meets the epidemic disease should? 陌生的环境,突如其来的疫病都是大问题,若是再遇上疫病该怎么办？ Gets sick such as mountain inverted/fall, majestic armed soldier, once falls ill, brandished the motionless sword. 病来如山倒,再雄壮的甲士,一旦生病,也挥舞不动刀剑了。 In the past Qin Dynasty subjugated Lingnan, encountering was not inferior to the loss that this southern China defeated, Qin Dynasty does not show solicitude for the financial capacity of the people, continued to send the army to subjugate, the financial capacity of the people dried up, finally becomes one of the straws crashing Qin Dynasty. 当年秦朝征讨岭南,遭遇了不次于此次南国战败的损失,秦朝不体恤民力,继续发大军征讨,民力枯竭,最终成为了压垮秦朝的稻草之一。 Do you hope the guy similarly so? 难道你们希望大汉同样如此吗？ Anyang marquis, you, in the place guards for many years, not clear place tyrants vicious? 安阳侯,你在地方镇守多年,难道不清楚地方豪强的狠毒吗？ Once the royal government increases taxes a article, they can add to ten articles, said that Anyang Hou Residence does want to slice similarly? 一旦朝廷加税一文,他们就能加到十文,还是说安阳侯府同样想要在这其中分一杯羹？ Subjugates the Hsiungnu because of the serious hidden trouble, the matter of countries comprising China in feudal times life or death, regardless of spends what price to destroy completely, but southwest foreign is only the illness/quick of tinea, because if such minor matter makes the world vibrate directly, is really unworthy. ” 征讨匈奴是因为心腹大患,诸夏存亡之事,所以无论花费什么代价都要灭掉,但是西南夷只是癣疥之疾,若是因为这样的小事就直接让天下震动,实在是不值。” The Han forest is somewhat startled to gawk, he somewhat unbelievable looks at not to have vigorously, he has not thought that will not have the illness/quick to oppose unexpectedly they will subjugate southwest foreign. 韩林有些怔楞,他有些难以置信的望着洛无疾,他没想到洛无疾竟然会反对他们征讨西南夷。 This does not conform to Roche's consistent attitude. 这不符合洛氏的一贯作风。 Huaiyin Hou Residence and Anyang Hou Residence minimum present relates with Roche quite closely, particularly two families are preparing to transform, needs to rely upon Roche. 淮阴侯府和安阳侯府起码现在还是和洛氏关系比较紧密的,尤其是两个家族正在准备转型,需要仰仗洛氏。 „Grand duke, Grand duke!” “大公,大公！” The Han forest deeply bows, sobbing sound said: „Why, did we really make a mistake?” 韩林深深躬身,泣声道:“为什么啊,难道我们真的错了吗？” Does not have the illness/quick to say in a soft voice: „Did not make a mistake, but is inopportune, looks like the daytime to seek for moon, at night seeks for Sun to be the same.” 洛无疾轻声道:“不是错了,而是不合时宜,就像是白昼寻找月亮,夜晚寻找太阳一样。” Some people spoke, although the sound was very light, but was actually similar to the god thunder that above nine days dropped, added also to have the weight/quantity compared with others. 有的人说话,虽然声音很轻,但是却如同九天之上落下的神雷,比其他人加起来还要有分量。 Does not have the illness/quick is such person, he is Roche's family lord, after the green radish and Huo Qubing die passes, he is only prestigious lid presses the person of Chinese army, is the idol of the world military person. 洛无疾就是这样的人,他是洛氏的家主,在卫青和霍去病薨逝之后,他是唯一一个威望盖压汉军的人,是天下武人的偶像。 He stands the emperor, the emperor is as stable as Mount Tai. 他站在皇帝这边,皇帝就稳如泰山。 The Han forest somewhat left the illustrious city scared, somewhat is at once confused, the ignorant letting person delivers a letter Chang'an to go. 韩林有些失魂落魄的离开了昭城,一时之间有些迷茫,浑浑噩噩的让人送信到长安去。 Must let it go perhaps in view of the impeachment of prime minister, most is retires. 针对丞相的弹劾恐怕要不了了之了,最多不过是下野而已。 - -- man (Han) dynasty slow of aristocrat degeneration, simply is a miracle, but this makes their influence inflation too quick similarly, after the Emperor Wu of Han period to the Hsiungnu war, the army meritorious service expensive/noble almost obtained all, under thriving martial arts, is hiding the giant political crisis.- «man (Han) Dynasty Rise and fall History» 汉王朝的贵族堕落之慢,简直是一个奇迹,但这同样让他们的势力膨胀过快,经过汉武帝时期的对匈奴战争,军功勋贵几乎得到了一切,在繁荣昌盛的武功之下,潜藏着巨大的政治危机。-《汉王朝兴衰史》 ( This chapter ends) (本章完)