Chapter 244 also offers suggestions 第244章洛亦献计 The man (Han) country whole body of ministers rush to the palace in abundance, in order takes a seat, Liu Bang catches up finally in a hurry, sits on head, closely follows in his behind, with the aim of always reminding for Liu Bang. 汉国群臣纷纷赶到殿中,按次落座,刘邦最后匆匆赶来,一屁股坐在上首,洛亦紧紧跟在他的身后,以便随时为刘邦提醒。 On the road that because comes the people have known that what happened, therefore Liu Bang not many wordy, asked directly: „How now should do?” 因为来的路上众人都已经知道发生什么事了,所以刘邦也不多啰嗦,直接问道:“现在应该怎么做呢？” Luze said immediately: „King, the ancestor of feudal official was the king in Qi, really extremely knew about the aristocrats in Qi, usually fought for power and profit, plunders the Qi wealth, when the country broken actually abandoned it Lord Monarch, was really Height of shamelessness, several history books could not find to seem like the Qi aristocrat such official, simultaneous/uniform king killed them, decided however is driven beyond the limits of forbearance.” 吕泽当即说道:“大王,臣的先祖就是齐国的王,对齐国的贵族实在是太过了解,平日争权夺利,掠夺齐国财富,等到国破之时却将主君一弃了之,实在是无耻之尤,数遍史书都找不到像是齐国贵族那样的臣子,齐王杀死他们,定然是忍无可忍了。” Luze said indeed is the fact, but similarly is because simultaneous/uniform king is his of the same clan, Luze wants to ask the opportunity to take as the foreign aid the simultaneous/uniform king similarly. 吕泽说的的确是事实,但同样是因为齐王是他的同宗,吕泽同样想要找机会将齐王引为外援。 Liu Bang heard that word slight bow, Qi has not fought to fall, only then simultaneous/uniform king slain, becomes famous in various countries. 刘邦闻言微微点点头,齐国未战而降,只有齐王死难,在诸国之中是出了名的。 After also this year smoothing over differences, relations between Liu Bang and Luze restored the past harmoniousness gradually, particularly felt gradually the world situation becomes chaotic, both sides are not that type do not know the person who weight, naturally must forward hand in hand. 经过洛亦这一年的和稀泥,刘邦和吕泽之间的关系渐渐恢复了昔日的和睦,尤其是渐渐感觉到天下局势变得混乱,双方都不是那种不知轻重的人,自然要携手向前。 Luze continues saying: „ Overlord interferes with simultaneous/uniform king the right action willfully, this is incorrect, the uncrowned king said that helps a tyrant do evil for the first under heaven big evil, now knew perfectly well that the correct matter is actually not done. 吕泽继续道:“霸王横加干涉齐王的正确行为,这是不对的,素王说助纣为虐为天下第一大害,现在明知有正确的事情却不做。 Because the great strength of overlord help him to oppressively, looking like helps King Zhou be the same, can die a natural death? 因为霸王的强大就帮助他为虐,就像是帮助纣王一样,难道能得到善终吗？ You must be the person of Saint of king, the feudal official do not want your. ” 您是要做古之圣王的人,臣不愿意您这样。” Liu Bang looks to, wants to listen to opinion , the also therefore sound said: „ King, gentlemen. 刘邦望向身边的洛亦,想要听听洛亦的意见,洛亦于是正声道:“大王,诸君。 The illustrious city makes treaties of alliance, the feudal lord reached agreement first to enter the pass is a king, but now is the king the pass king? 昭城会盟,诸侯相约先入关中为王,但是现在大王是关中王吗？ Kings, if you newly-built good gorgeous house, however your neighbor actually laid aside two fierce wolf dogs in your institute. 大王,若是您新建好了华美的房屋,但是您的邻居却在您的院中放置了两条凶恶的狼犬。 Can you also calm and steady going to sleep? ” 您还能安稳的入睡吗？” Liu Bang complexion is serious, he knew Dallo this was also saying that similarly sealed King Qin and Yong king in pass, was the clansman juniors of Xiang, the goal naturally monitors him, looked like in years past the three high supervisors of Ji illustrious establishment. 刘邦面色严肃,他知道洛亦这是在说同样封在关中的秦王和雍王,都是项氏的族人子弟,目的自然就是监视他,就像是昔年姬昭设置的三监。 These two people let Liu Bang such as the fishbone in the throat, the sinking sound said: „ Naturally cannot, I want calm and steady going to sleep, must kill these two wicked dogs. 这两个人让刘邦如鲠在喉,沉声道:“当然不能,寡人想要安稳的入睡,就一定要杀死这两条恶犬。 But these two wicked dogs are not only strong, a stronger master, that is I cannot resist. ” 但这两条恶犬不仅强壮,还有一个更强壮的主人,那是寡人不能对抗的。” Also hears word said with a smile: „ The owner of wicked dog clone now weak, is you eliminates the opportunity of wicked dog, when you eliminated the wicked dog, a front gate pass/test, its master can also cross the tall wall that the mountains river casts again? 洛亦闻言笑道:“恶犬的主人现在分身乏术,正好是您清除恶犬的机会,等到您清除了恶犬,再将院门一关,难道它的主人还能越过山川大河铸就的高墙吗？ The feudal officials read the book on military strategy to see, first began to control others, latter begins to be restrained others, must ride the wicked dog to be unprepared, a round of system enemy. ” 臣读兵书见到,先动手就能够控制别人,后动手就会受制于别人,现在应当乘恶犬不备,一发制敌。” In the Luze eye the bright flashes through, not only supports to oppose Xiang Yu, but also directly proposed that must ride Qi to divert Xiang Yu's opportunity, puts in the bag directly pass. 吕泽眼中亮光闪过,洛亦不仅仅支持反对项羽,还直接提出要乘着齐国牵制项羽的这个机会,直接将关中收入囊中。 Liu Bang hesitation moment, also did not fight with wisely, said directly: „ What to do if Xiang Yu does lead the world feudal lord to attack? 刘邦沉吟片刻,也不和洛亦打机锋了,直接说道:“若是项羽率领天下诸侯来攻怎么办？ Now is not Hangu Pass one man guards the pass in years past, the time that ten thousand men opens, lifted the soldier of the world, pass is unable to resist. ” 现在已经不是昔年函谷关一夫当关,万夫莫开的时代了,举天下之兵,关中是无法抵挡的。” Also hears word laughs unexpectedly: „ King, where does Xiang Yu lift the soldier of the world? 洛亦闻言竟然大笑起来:“大王,项羽从哪里举天下之兵？ He attacked Qi to command troops to go personally, if can transfer the world feudal lord, he will condescend to fall expensive/noble to go? 他连攻打齐国都要自己亲自率兵前往,若是能调动天下诸侯,他怎么会屈尊降贵自己前往呢？ The big brother tomb also had said...... ” 亦的大兄陵曾经说过……” Also wants to say Xiang Yu autocrat, but thought that suddenly this does not seem good, therefore lives. 洛亦本来想说项羽独夫的,但是却陡然觉得这样似乎不好,于是顿住。 The people in palace are launching the ear to listen, tied Guoluo also to stop suddenly, caught the eye to look to him, actually saw that also did not have the meaning that the half a point said again downward. 殿中的众人正展开耳朵听着,结果洛亦突然停住了,纷纷抬眼望向他,却见到洛亦没有半分再往下说的意思。 The speech said that half really suffer the person, the people on the scene bring some bears a grievance quiet to. 说话说一半是真的折磨人,在场众人都带着些许的幽怨望向洛亦。 Although also had not said downward, but the people from his tone can hear that once world hegemon's the world to present to advocate the appraisal is not considered as that high. 虽然洛亦没往下说,但是从他的语气之中众人还是能够听得出那位曾经的天下盟主对现在的这位天下共主评价不算是高。 The ability and wisdom of tomb is the world person recognized, the tomb does not favor Xiang Yu, this invisible in gave a people inexplicable confidence on the scene. 洛陵的才智是天下人所公认的,洛陵不看好项羽,这无形之中就给了在场众人一种莫名的信心。 Especially Liu Bang, when the illustrious city makes treaties of alliance, he is only an ordinary Shandong feudal lord, the ambition first enters the pass is a king, but now he is the man (Han) king, is one of the world influence strongest several feudal lords, he among the reputation in the world is also very good. 尤其是刘邦,在昭城会盟之时,他只是一个普通的山东诸侯,野心就是先入关中为王,但是现在他已经是汉王了,是天下势力最强的几个诸侯之一,他在天下之间的名声也很好。 Xiang Yu enfeoffs King Qin and Yong king in pass, this clearly in view of him, such being the case looks like such that also said a moment ago, who strikes the first blow has the advantage is most correct. 项羽在关中分封秦王和雍王,这分明就是针对他,既然如此就像是刚才洛亦说的那样,先下手为强才是最正确的。 Liu Bang said immediately: „Child jade, the feudal lord approved Xiang Yu's position of the lord altogether in the past together, moreover swore in the front of uncrowned king how the season does dare to violate the pledge?” 刘邦当即说道:“子玉,当年诸侯共同认可了项羽的共主之位,而且还在素王的面前立誓,季怎么敢违背誓言呢？” Also awe-inspiring saying: „ King, knows certainly that you are the code of honor heavy hero, the like attracts like, this is also with the reason that you intersect. 洛亦正气凛然的说道:“大王,亦当然知道您是守信重诺的英豪,人以群分,这正是亦和您相交的原因啊。 In years past the prince stated puts to death the week emperor, was the feudal official kills Monarch, was child kills the father, but history book record actually with executing character, just like ancestor King Wu ke decided Shang Dynasty, killed one's sovereign by the feudal official? 昔年王子述诛杀周天子,是臣杀君,是子杀父,但史书记载却用诛字,正如先祖武王克定殷商,难道是以臣弑君吗？ I had not heard King Wu kills one's sovereign, only heard that put to death an autocrat of cholera world, the uncrowned king had said that the words of monarchy were not completely right, because the monarchy cannot know all. 我不曾听说过武王弑君,只听说诛杀了一个霍乱天下的独夫,素王说过,君主的话不是完全对的,因为君主不能知道一切。 Only then Qin Fajia thinks that the king always knows all, the fact proved that even if beginning emperor such power enormous emperor were deceived by the crafty feudal official as before, this is the big brother must tread the law the reason. 只有秦法家才会认为君王始终知道一切,事实证明即便是始皇帝这样权力极大的皇帝依旧被奸佞之臣欺瞒,这就是大兄要践法的原因。 Now simultaneous/uniform king did not have the mistake actually to encounter overlord's reprimanding, simultaneous/uniform king to the overlord stated that the wrongful treatment was actually crusaded against by the overlord, this was the Saint king should do? 现在齐王没有过错却遭到了霸王的斥责,齐王向霸王申述冤屈却被霸王讨伐,这难道是圣王该做的吗？ Overlords now already like this overbearing, if attacked to extinguish Qi, his heart will be getting more and more proud. 霸王现在就已经这样的骄横,若是攻灭了齐国,想必他的心就会越来越骄傲了。 It looks like the beginning emperor, in years past was just a proton in Handan city, as attacked to extinguish various countries his heart to be getting more and more tenacious, the world person was not placed in the heart by him. 就像是始皇帝,昔年只不过是邯郸城中的一个质子,随着攻灭诸国他的心越来越固执,天下人不被他放在心中。 Oh, the overlord is the soldier lord who the space lowers, if he becomes the beginning emperor such person, you aren't worried for the world person? 唉,霸王是天上降下的兵主,若是他成为始皇帝那样的人,您难道不为天下人感到忧虑吗？ He attacked to extinguish suddenly/violently Qin to have the huge merit, the world person thought of gratefully his benevolence, but he loses the welldoing now, can sit in the world altogether Lord position? 他攻灭暴秦有天大的功绩,天下人感念他的恩情,但是现在他失去了德行,难道还能坐在天下共主的位置上吗？ The feudal lords are not willing to obey him, is only under the despotic power. 想必诸侯都不愿意服从他,只是迫于淫威罢了。 Looks over the world feudal lord, only then you can prevent the overlord, but also please for the world common people, summon that the feudal lord admonishes the overlord together, how without the person of welldoing can occupy unjustly the position of emperor? ” 纵观天下诸侯,只有您能够阻止霸王了,还请您为天下苍生,号召诸侯共同规劝霸王,没有德行的人怎么能够窃据天子之位呢？” Liu Bang more listens more excited, naturally is anxious, the world person needs my Liu season to save, saving later is an emperor is not excessive conveniently. 刘邦越听越兴奋,当然忧虑,天下人需要我刘季去拯救,拯救之后顺手当个皇帝不过分吧。 Child jade, but must be you! 子玉,还得是你啊！ Peixian one group of people dumbfounded is looking at, they limited to experience, has not read the history book, before can play the fulfilled prophecy, the emperor who creates a false impression was mad is the limit of imagination. 沛县一群人都目瞪口呆的望着洛亦,他们限于见识,又没怎么读过史书,之前能玩玩谶语,造造假的天子气已经是想象的极限了。 The prince who also said a moment ago stated the matter that put to death the week emperor, here also knows on Luze, they did not know these things, nature a lot cannot think. 刚才洛亦说的王子述诛杀周天子的事情,这里也就吕泽知道,他们不知道这些事情,自然很多事情就想不到。 For these years Roche plays is the name . Moreover the various matter gates of antiquity as well as nation week were clear, various words techniques had words at fingertips and wrote with facility, one set of complete political logic system, so long as concrete instance toward inside one set on line. 洛氏这么多年来玩的就是名义,而且上古以及邦周的各种事情门清,各种话术信手拈来,还有一套完整的政治逻辑体系,只要将具体的事例往里面一套就行。 At least also felt own this set of theory is really strict, ingredient that has not fictionalized completely, anybody will see will approve. 至少洛亦自己都觉得自己这一套理论实在是严密,完全没有虚构的成分,任何人见到都会认可。 Luze wish stands to say the child jade simply unparalleled, this was also too credible, the words get down directly Liu Bang final hesitant elimination. 吕泽简直想要站起来直呼子玉无双,这也太靠谱了,一番话下来直接将刘邦最后的犹豫打消。 Liu Bang works is extremely decisive, immediately said: „ Child jade said is extremely, various did Sir/minister have other to say that without that deferred to the child jade saying that to the world outgoing message. 刘邦做事极是果断,当即说道:“子玉所言极是,诸卿还有没有其他要说的,若是没有那就按照子玉所言,向天下发文。 Takes child Mu as, immediately commands the army to attack to extinguish King Qin and Yong king, then Xiao He guards pass, I unite the world feudal lord, goes out to ask the overlord to abdicate! ” 以子穆为将,立刻率军攻灭秦王和雍王,然后萧何镇守关中,寡人联合天下诸侯,出关请霸王退位！” In the palace the whole body of ministers mind surges, goes out to ask the overlord to abdicate, arrived unexpectedly this step, does the generation of our group of slaughter dog pen government officials have the opportunity to become the auxiliary feudal official of emperor? 殿中群臣心神激荡,出关请霸王退位,不知不觉之间竟然走到了这一步,难道我们这一群屠狗笔吏之辈也有机会成为天子的辅臣？ Then looked up to sit of on head, has the confidence immediately, Roche child there, being the emperor auxiliary feudal official was also very normal. 然后抬头望了望坐在上首的洛亦,立刻有了信心,洛氏子就在那里,做天子辅臣也是很正常的。 Among Han Xin features has a consideration of faint trace, attacks to extinguish King Qin and harmony king he was not worried, what he is anxious is Xiang Yu. 韩信眉目之间带着一丝丝的思虑,攻灭秦王和雍王他并不担心,他所忧虑的是项羽。 As the top command, regarding a Xiang Yu such world-famous command, naturally must study, but since he studies Xiang Yu made a debut the war, person on hemp. 身为顶级的统帅,对于项羽这么一个名满天下的统帅,自然是要研究的,但是他研究了项羽出道以来的战争之后,人就麻了。 Surpassed his cognition completely, was really odd, that was not individual, Han Xin does not know how Xiang Yu won, naturally could not find the method of restraint. 完全超出了他的认知,实在是过于离谱了,那就不是个人,韩信不知道项羽是怎么赢的,自然就找不到克制的方法。 Moreover Han Xin feels faintly, positive/direct hard steel, he also just. 而且韩信隐隐感觉到,正面硬钢,他也刚不过。 After reaching this conclusion, Han Xin instead had a train of thought indistinctly, but has not understood at present thoroughly. 在得到这个结论之后,韩信反而隐隐约约有了一点思绪,但是目前还没有彻底明了。 Han Xin and Xiao He leave ranks to Liu Bang salutes, these two one is the country, one is an Great General, is under Liu Bang the position highest person. 韩信和萧何两人出列向刘邦行礼,这两人一个是国相,一个是大将军,是刘邦麾下地位最高的人。 Luze is an exception, he is a wife's or mother's family. 吕泽除外,他是外戚。 Is also an exception, he is an officials close to the throne. 洛亦除外,他是近臣。 - -- Xiang Yu cuts down for no reason neat, world board. 项羽无故伐齐,天下板荡。 The great-great grandfather feared, wants to dispatch troops Qin and harmony, by secure pass, asks the whole body of ministers, said: „I lift the overlord am a king, now cuts down it, non- righteousness.” 高祖惧,欲发兵秦、雍,以安关中,乃问群臣,曰:“寡人举霸王为王,今伐之,不义。” Also said: „Ancient language ‚has not heard to kill one's sovereign, hears Zhu autocrat Zhou’, now king Fa it, is on the destiny, along the will of the people.” 亦曰:“古语言‘未闻弑君,闻诛一独夫纣矣’,今王伐之,乃应天命,顺人心。” The great-great grandfather is pleased, was dispatches troops to cut down Qin and harmony, east approached.- «Records of the Grand Historian British Hou Aristocratic family» 高祖悦,乃发兵伐秦、雍,东向而出。-《史记・洛英侯世家》 ( This chapter ends) (本章完)