HRE :: Volume #11

#1038: Complex Russia politics


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To Franz, the issue cannot process forever, so long as you do not go to manage it, that is not the issue. 弗朗茨来说,问题永远都是处理不完的,只要你不去管它,那就不在是问题。 France was chaotic, to the media truly is a flash news, but to Holy Roman Empire , in fact even/including little catches cold is not. 法兰西乱了,对媒体来说确实是一个大新闻,但是对神圣罗马帝国来说,实际上连小感冒都算不上。 Since is the matter that the Russia person annoys, that made Tsar government level. Holy Roman has not garrisoned in France in any case, even if hits rivers of blood, the Vienna government will not worry. 既然是俄国人惹出来的事情,那就让沙皇政府自己摆平好了。反正神罗又没有在法兰西本土驻军,就算是打得血流成河,维也纳政府也不会着急。 The only trouble, is the international opinion will be very probably disadvantageous. At this time is different in those days, as the eldest child of European alliance, the anti- thunder attribute of Vienna government already. 唯一的麻烦,大概是国际舆论会很不利。只是今时不同往日,作为欧陆联盟的老大,维也纳政府的抗雷属性已经强了很多。 Now tosses about goes wrong, is not the Holy Roman army. Even if were under attack from public opinion, most still accuses the Vienna government not to take. 现在折腾出乱子的,又不是神罗军队。就算是遭到了舆论抨击,最多也就指责维也纳政府“不作为”。 Does not take is not the crime, opens the modern history to know, the policy of Vienna government non- achievement, has continued many years. “不作为”不是罪过,翻开近代历史就知道,维也纳政府这种不作为的政策,已经延续了很多年。 To governments in Europe, the eldest child on top of the head has achievement far ratio not to take fearfully. If the Vienna government anything matter must manage, it is estimated that the European alliance will not look like now is so stable. 对欧洲各国政府来说,头顶上的老大“有作为”远比“不作为”可怕。要是维也纳政府什么事情都要管,估计欧陆联盟也不会像现在这么稳定了。 Similar to the later generation, if the US government does not toss about and is ineffective suddenly, all countries in the world will only congratulate each other, rather than jumps to accuse the American non- achievement. 和后世差不多,如果美国政府突然不折腾、不管事了,世界各国只会弹冠相庆,而不是跳出来指责美国人不作为。 Was spurted does not take the primary cause, only then, that is the minor matter of ordinary goose bumps, you must participate, actually shrank by the critical moment, is not willing to shoulder the responsibility. 被喷不作为主要原因只有一个,那就是平常鸡毛蒜皮的小事,你都要参与,到了关键时刻却缩了回去,不肯承担责任。 Although the French chaotic situation has the sign of magnification, but has not been in the situation that is unable to tidy up after all. The Vienna government does not act temporarily, making Russia person process does not have the problem theoretically. 法兰西乱局虽然有扩大化的迹象,但是毕竟还没有到无法收拾的地步。维也纳政府暂时不出手,让俄国人自己处理理论上来说没有毛病。 Naturally this does not have the problem, but stands, in Holy Roman Empire , as well as do not have in the third party standpoint of benefit connection. 当然这个没毛病,只是站在神圣罗马帝国自身、以及没有利益关联的第三方立场上而言的。 The French at storm center and Russia person, does not think absolutely. 处在风暴中心的法国人、俄国人,绝对不会这么想。 Did not have the Vienna government to come out to mediate, French and Russian governments at this moment, had been compelled the corner in fact. 没有了维也纳政府出来调停,此刻的法俄两国政府,实质上已经被逼到了墙角。 Compromise? 妥协? The Carlos administration dares to yield, the French People dare to trade Emperor. 卡洛斯政府敢让步,法国民众就敢换个皇帝 Without the strength and enemy proceed boldly, loses face ; If non-violent does not cooperate does not dare, but how also to prove oneself with the French People stand? 没有实力和敌人硬干,就已经非常丢人了;要是非暴力不合作都不敢,还怎么证明自己和法国民众站在一起? The French government does not have to choose, the Tsar government was awkward. Nicholas II who just succeeded to the throne, but also without adapted to the unsurpassed power that Tsar brought with enough time, met this greatly troublesome. 法国政府没得选择,沙皇政府就尴尬了。刚刚继位的尼古拉二世,还没有来得及适应沙皇带来的无上权力,就遇到了这个大麻烦。 Investigated that to wrong is pointless, once deeply investigates, the final result will apply makeup mostly. 追究对错是没有意义,一旦深入调查,最终的结果多半会打脸。 According to view in law Russian force Headquarters, this is the conspiracy of French, shoulders the conflict of Russian force and local residents intentionally, causes the situation to lose control. 按照驻法俄军司令部的说法,这是法国人的阴谋,故意挑起俄军和当地民众的冲突,才导致局势失控的。 No matter others do believe that Nicholas II will not believe in any case. Perhaps the conspiracy of French exists, but causes the primary cause that the situation loses control, absolutely is not a small conspiracy. 不管别人信不信,反正尼古拉二世是不会信。法国人的阴谋或许存在,但是导致局势失控的主要原因,绝对不是一个小小的阴谋。 Without the means that the damn reporter recorded the Russian force atrocity, the picture has appeared in the papers, wants to wash cannot wash off. 没有办法,该死的记者把俄军暴行记录了下来,照片都已经见报了,想洗都洗不掉。 Even also some people mailed the video small movie to Nicholas II, meanwhile threw in tone sincere correspondence, hopes that Nicholas II stops the atrocity of Russian force. 甚至还有人给尼古拉二世邮寄了视频小电影,同时还附赠了一封语气诚恳的书信,希望尼古拉二世制止俄军的暴行。 The correspondence, similar believing Nicholas II receives must. If concentrates completely, can install several railway trucks. 书信也就罢了,类似的信尼古拉二世收到的多得去了。要是全部集中起来,能装几火车皮。 Does not blow flamboyant, if lived in the 20 th century, Nicholas II by selling received the correspondence every day the scrap paper, can on the life of middle class. 不吹牛逼,如果生活在二十世纪,尼古拉二世靠卖每天收到书信的废纸,也能够过上中产阶级的生活。 Especially recently, the prominent figure in almost entire Europe, sent in the correspondence to him. The polite tactful persuasion, does not show due respect for the feelings scolded directly. 尤其是最近一段时间,几乎全欧洲的知名人物,都给他发来了书信。客气一点儿的委婉劝说,不给面子的就直接开骂了。 The Nicholas II self-control is luckily good, if exchanges narrow-minded Tsar, must send for the fellow who gets rid of these to gesticulate. 幸好尼古拉二世涵养不错,要是换上一个小心眼的沙皇,没准就要派人干掉这些指手画脚的家伙。 However, the good self-control cannot withstand the impact that small movie brings. If because of the reason, Nicholas II commander in Paris will not call absolutely front, making him know that anything is instructs earnestly. 然而,再好的涵养也顶不住“小电影”带来的冲击。如果不是因为距离缘故,尼古拉二世绝对会把驻巴黎司令官叫到面前,让他知道什么是耳提面命。 Sees excessively stupid, has not seen is so stupid. Was photographed surreptitiously the picture by the reporter, can understand reluctantly. But was made the documentary film at the scene, that could not be justified. 见过蠢的,就没有见过这么蠢的。被记者偷拍照片,勉强还可以理解。可是被人在现场拍了纪录片,那就说不过去了。 The camera of this year is not the small toy, then the big physique one side photographs again, the scene Russian force soldiers have not gone to prevent unexpectedly, Nicholas II was unable to describe with the language. 这年头的摄影机可不是小玩具,那么大的块头再一旁拍摄,现场俄军士兵居然没有去阻止,尼古拉二世已经无法用语言来形容了。 In brief, these video materials, to the Tsar government quite disadvantageous. Recently was law-abiding for more than ten years, pushed in the European civilized circle with great difficulty, must be kicked. 总之,这些视频资料,对沙皇政府是相当的不利。最近安分了十几年,好不容易才挤入了欧洲文明圈子,现在又要被人踢出来了。 Barbaric and cruel the hat, Russian Empire was don't thinks casts off in a short time. International image that the Alexander III years painstakingly plan, at this moment is a dynasty lose entirely. “野蛮”、“残暴”的帽子,短时间内俄罗斯帝国是甭想摘掉了。亚历山大三世时代苦心经营起来的国际形象,此刻是一朝丧尽。 Benefitting is slurred in the video material, is unable to identify the status of Russian force officers accurately, otherwise Nicholas II must send to see God these waste is not possible. 得益于视频资料模糊不清,无法准确的辨认出俄军官兵的身份,要不然尼古拉二世非得把这些废物送去见上帝不可。 The situation the erosion, must hold responsible that is also the future matter, at present what is most important is the damage control. 局势已经糜烂,要追究责任那也是未来的事,眼下最重要的还是善后。 By the allied armies headquarters of Vienna government control, was ordered in Paris Russian force to solve directly troublesome. No matter Tsar government whether wants, now can only brace oneself on. 被维也纳政府控制的盟军总部,直接勒令驻巴黎俄军自己解决麻烦。不管沙皇政府是否愿意,现在都只能硬着头皮上。 ...... …… St. Petersburg 圣彼得堡 In Winter Palace, Nicholas II is gloomy the face to sit above the first place, indifferent saying: „ The matter happening in France, has seriously affected our international image. 冬宫中,尼古拉二世阴沉着脸坐在首位之上,冷漠的说道:“发生在法国的事情,已经严重影响到了我们的国际形象。 In order to retrieve these adverse impacts, maintains the interests of Russian Empire, now we must take the bold measures. 为了挽回这些不利影响,维护俄罗斯帝国的利益,现在我们必须要采取果断措施。 ...... ” ……” Obviously, Nicholas II has not made clear the key point. International image, that contraption, once ruined, that was really bad. 显然,尼古拉二世至今都没有搞清楚重点。“国际形象”,那玩意儿一旦败坏了,那就真坏了。 To recall is not, but this absolutely is not in a short time, can change. 想要挽回也不是不可以,但这绝对不是在短时间内,就能够改变的。 Intertwines with it in the international image, might as well first finds the way to stabilize the French situation. These benefits, can see to feel truly. 与其纠结于国际形象,还不如先想办法稳定法兰西局势。这些利益,才是真正看得见摸得着的。 Other quite Donos fuel/thin reminded: „ Your majesty, the allied armies headquarters has been authorized us plenary powers to process the French thing. 颇别多诺斯柴夫提醒道:“陛下,盟军总部已经授权我们全权处理法兰西事物。 Urgent matter, what we must first do stabilizes the Paris situation. The commander of note in law, investigated the matter that related responsible person, can wait for the situation to deal with stably from now on. ” 当务之急,我们首先要做的是稳定巴黎局势。照会驻法司令官,追究相关责任人的事,可以等局势稳定过后再进行处理。” ( Other quite Donos fuel/thin husband: Nicholas II private tutor and planning minister and Eastern Orthodox Church business total administrative bureau) (颇别多诺斯柴夫:尼古拉二世私人教师兼谋臣、东正教事务总管理局局长) Does not have the means that the allied armies to be authorized in Paris Russian force plenary powers processing, seems like that is the unusual trust, is to make Tsar government clean up the mess actually. 没有办法,盟军授权驻巴黎俄军全权处理,看似是非常的信任,实则是让沙皇政府自己收拾烂摊子。 Matter in the law Russian force annoys, now the situation loses control, the Tsar government can hardly absolve, wants to shirk is not good. 事情是驻法俄军惹出来的,现在局势失控,沙皇政府难辞其咎,想要推脱都不行。 And aftermath, but must do attractively. Otherwise suffers the unexpected misfortune several other garrison allies, must come to look for trouble. 并且善后工作,还必须要干得漂亮。要不然遭遇无妄之灾的其他几个驻军盟国,就要过来找麻烦了。 Issue that doesn't fear, the key is everyone lives hand to mouth to eat in the same mouth pot, but also needs the coordination with each other. If really got into a deadlock the relations, the situation in law Russian force will be worse. 不是怕不怕的问题,关键是大家在同一口锅里混饭吃,还需要相互配合。真要是把关系搞僵了,驻法俄军的处境还会更糟。 Said that is not of pleasant to hear, if really the French picks up thoroughly, depending on law Russian force that son strength, does not only blow the gathering place. 说不不好听的,真要是法国人彻底抱走,仅凭驻法俄军那点儿力量,根本就镇不住场子。 Limited to distance, Russian Empire, even to reenforce, in the time still without enough time, can only depend on the strength of allies. 受限于距离,俄罗斯帝国就算是想要增援,时间上也来不及,只能倚仗盟友们的力量。 Perhaps the single national strength is limited, but these more than ten countries add, all -round strength from Russian Empire in fact is not too far. 或许单个国家实力有限,可是这十几个国家加起来,综合实力距离俄罗斯帝国实际上也不是太远。 First Lord of the Treasury Sergei Witte: „ Chief said well, the present situation does not allow that we delayed. 财政大臣谢尔盖・维特:“局长说得不错,现在的局势已经不容许我们拖延了。 The Vienna government clarifies now does not want to meddle. The French government struck, from now on we will spend in France, needs to raise. 维也纳政府现在摆明了是不想插手。法国政府又罢工了,从现在开始我们在法兰西所花费,都需要自行筹措。 The time of dragging is longer, the loss of empire will be bigger. 拖延的时间越长,帝国的损失就会越大。 To solve problem as soon as possible, I proposed that immediately sends out a delegation to rush to Paris, is responsible for investigating the incident cause, coordinated relations with French government. 为了尽快解决问题,我提议立即派出一个代表团赶赴巴黎,负责调查事件起因,协调同法国政府的关系。 No matter how said, must first comfort the French government. Only then their coming out worked, the social order can restore as soon as possible. ” 不管怎么说,都先要把法国政府安抚住。只有他们出来工作了,社会秩序才能够尽快恢复。” It is not Sergei Witte opposes the violent repression, is the situation in present France is extremely mainly complex, by violence basic on solution issue. 并非谢尔盖・维特反对暴力镇压,主要是现在法兰西的局势太过复杂,靠暴力根本就解决不了问题。 Wants person who solves to have the issue, seemingly in the law Russian force also the strength has. Considering the pressure in finance, the Tsar government is impossible to send 1.8 million Russian force to play the big clean. 想要解决产生问题的人,貌似驻法俄军又力有不及。考虑到财政上的压力,沙皇政府也不可能派百八十万俄军玩儿大清洗。 Since plays the violence is not good, that can only speak the truth. France is the defeated nation, the opening wants the short three points in any case. 既然玩儿暴力不行,那就只能讲道理了。反正法兰西是战败国,开局就要矮三分。 Foreign minister Mikhailovich: „ This is very difficult to achieve. The French government strikes to protest, the main purpose is to want us withdraws troops from Paris. 外交大臣米哈伊罗维奇:“这恐怕很难做到。法国政府罢工抗议,主要目的是想要我们从巴黎撤军。 However, this exactly is we most impossible concessions. Without the garrison, how our war indemnity to safeguard? 然而,这恰恰是我们最不可能的让步。要是没了驻军,我们战争赔款如何保障? Empire in the interests of France, maintains by what? 帝国在法兰西的利益,又靠什么来维护? Even if these do not care, we must consider the standpoint of anti-France coalition various countries. The empire compromises to the French unilaterally, will only put in a very uncomfortable place the empire. ” 即便是这些都不在乎,我们也必须要考虑反法同盟各国的立场。帝国单方面向法国人妥协,只会将帝国置于一个非常尴尬的境地。” Does not oppose good, the ability of Ministry of Foreign Affairs is limited. To convince the French by glib tongue, radically is the impossible mission. 不反对不行,外交部的能力有限。想靠三寸不烂之舌说服法国人,根本就是不可能完成的任务。 The bottom line of Tsar government shining here is putting, the biggest concessions nothing but are: The next time does not collect taxes personally, then did not have then. 沙皇政府的底线明晃晃的在这里放着,最大的让步无非是:下一次不亲自去收税,然后就没有然后了。 Investigates the responsible person, that is also the interior deals with, the final result nothing but is made to drink as a forfeit three cups. 追究责任人,那也是内部进行处理,最终的结果无非是罚酒三杯。 Reason that the litigants accept the penalty, is not the atrocity of Russian force ; But when robs to slaughter, has not completed the news blackout, making the Tsar government fall into passively. 当事人接受惩罚的原因,也不是俄军的暴行;而是在抢劫杀戮的时候,没有做好消息封锁,让沙皇政府陷入了被动。 About the Russian force atrocity issue, the Tsar government says that now anything is impossible to acknowledge. Even if the evidence is ample, the Tsar government also can only die to shoulder. 关于俄军暴行的问题,沙皇政府现在说什么也不可能承认。纵使证据再充分,沙皇政府也只能死扛到底。 Such process result, French, regardless of is not how impossible to satisfy. 这样的处理结果,法国人无论如何也不可能满意。 To solve the problem with the diplomatic means that at least must throw several scapegoats to go out, making the French vent resentment in the heart. 想要用外交手段解决问题,最起码要丢几个替罪羊出去,让法国人发泄一下心中的怨气。 Obviously, the approach of this type of offending military, Ministry of Foreign Affairs may not be competent. 显然,这种得罪军方的做法,外交部是不可能干的。 Not only does not want to offend the colleague, is not willing to take the consequence of negotiations failure, Mikhailovich naturally must speak the offensive talk in front, with the aim of having problems in the future the passage responsibility. 既不想得罪同僚,又不愿意承担谈判失败的后果,米哈伊罗维奇自然要将丑话讲在前面,以便未来出了问题好推移责任。 The civil official group standpoint is not unified, military that not to mention. Except for the armed suppression, is the armed suppression, shoulders the responsibility in any case is not possible. 文官集团立场都不统一,军方那就更不用说了。除了武力镇压,还是武力镇压,反正承担责任是不可能的。 The interests of empire are no doubt important, but individual position and future must be more important. Anybody is in the position of secretary of war, will first maintain little brother's interests. 帝国的利益固然重要,但是个人地位、前途明显要更重要一些。任何人处在陆军大臣的位置上,都会先维护自家小弟的利益。 ...... …… To ear soft Nicholas II, senior government officials dispute arguing endlessly, is biggest suffering. Let's call the whole thing off, must make the choice, really felt embarrassed Tsar. 对耳根子软的尼古拉二世来说,政府高层争执不休,就是最大的折磨。各说各有理,要从中做出抉择,实在是太为难沙皇了。 Perhaps hears is not impatient, perhaps also thought of anything, Nicholas II interrupted people's discussion. 或许是听得不耐烦了,又或许是想到了什么,尼古拉二世打断了众人的讨论。 Ok, Ministry of Foreign Affairs first negotiated with the French. If they understand what has to be done, accepts our good intentions ; If the French rejected our good intentions, lets their sober with the bayonet.” “好了,外交部先和法国人谈判。如果他们识时务,接受我们的善意就罢了;要是法国人拒绝了我们的善意,就用刺刀让他们清醒一下。” The diplomatic military employs two methods to achieve one goal, catches up to solve the problem together, with exactly the same that in the book described, seemed like does not have any problem. 外交军事双管齐下,一起发力解决问题,和书上描写的一模一样,看起来没有任何毛病。 As for the effect how, that must use to know. Nicholas II now is in any case satisfied, synthesizes everyone's opinion, the aspects looked. 至于效果怎么样,那要用了才知道。反正尼古拉二世现在非常满意,综合了大家的意见,方方面面都照顾到了。 Only trouble is the concrete performers , needs a headache. Actually to be headed by Ministry of Foreign Affairs, is headed by the military, this issue great Tsar your majesty has not given an explicit answer. 唯一麻烦的就是具体执行者们,又需要头疼了。究竟是以外交部为首,还是以军方为首,这个问题伟大的沙皇陛下没有给出一个明确的答复。 Although knows is troublesome, but people's tacit choice on the scene evasion. 尽管知道是麻烦,但是在场众人默契的选择了回避。 Is headed by whom, not only involved this aftermath, related to the war department and Ministry of Foreign Affairs's ranking issue in government power structure. 以谁为首,不光牵扯到了这次善后问题,更关系到了陆军部和外交部在政府权力构架中的排名问题。 Tsar assigns directly, nothing but is an issue of imperial envoy, does not affect the balance of power. 沙皇直接指定也就罢了,无非是一个钦差大臣的问题,不影响权力的平衡。 But was pierced the window paper by others, that political struggle desktop secretly, did not have the room to manoeuvre again. 可是由其他人捅破了窗户纸,那就是将暗地里的政治斗争桌面化,再也没有了回旋的余地。 Politically, this without doubt is a taboo. The people on the scene are the smart people, knows that anything is competent, anything is not competent. 在政治上,这无疑是一种大忌。在场的众人都是聪明人,知道什么事情能干,什么事情不能干。
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